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Maruti Baleno:Pros:Ride Comfort and HandlingGood fuel efficiencyTrouble-freeCons:Slightly expensive spares for a Maruti.Cons:

No offence but i differ here. Baleno was i think the only sedan which had worst interiors(design and quality) for a 7-9lac sedan i have ever seen. It were almost like Alto at that time and also the build quality. And i think looks and interiors made that car a big time flop although it had good engine, comfort, ride and handling.

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My Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack:

+ Ample cabin and boot Space

+ Blue&Me

+ Steering and voice controls

+ Climate control with rear ac vents

+ Superb ride & handling

+ Stylish

+ Follow Me Home/My Car features

+ Desmodronic foldable key with remote control

 

- Ground clearance could have been more [for Karnataka roads!]

- Big communication gap between Fiat and customers: many features not mentioned in owner's handbook.

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Maruti Baleno:Pros:Ride Comfort and HandlingGood fuel efficiencyTrouble-freeCons:Slightly expensive spares for a Maruti.Cons:

No offence but i differ here. Baleno was i think the only sedan which had worst interiors(design and quality) for a 7-9lac sedan i have ever seen. It were almost like Alto at that time and also the build quality. And i think looks and interiors made that car a big time flop although it had good engine' date=' comfort, ride and handling.[/quote']

No BS, I didn't mention about the Interior quality anywhere!!! smiley11.gif

You are right! The Interior plastics doesn't feel rich. It was a 1994 design man!!

We must admit: Even the first gen Honda City's Interiors was not of very good Quality; not even Lancer!!

Interior Design is Ok to me, since there are lots of cubby-holes; plus rattles-free even after clocking more than 1 lakh kilometers!

carispassion2009-11-16 15:22:43

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Fiat 1100 Delight

Pros:

1. Solid Build

2. Good for scaring people

3. Comfortable

4. Still a good city runabout

5. good car to start driving with

6. Simple and user friendly - no gadgetry involved

Cons:

1. absolute lack of features

2. out of production

3. not a classic yet!

M800 - 1988 DX model

Pros:

1. Best car to drive in congested traffic

2. Very practical city car

3. Reliable

4. Cheap to maintain & run

5. good to start driving on the road (after the Fiat)

6. more comfortable rear seat than some later Maruti models (wagnr etc)

Cons:

1. Not very safe

2. Plastics ok (compared to later models)

3. No 5th gear, power steering

4. Underpowered (esp with AC)

5. Horrible in summers

Honda City Gxi 2004 - The modern day Amby

Pros:

1. Very comfortable

2. Cheap to maintain and run

3. Abundant space

4. Easy to drive

5. Very reliable

Cons:

1. Not very good looking

2. Visibility somewhat obstructed due to A pillar design

3. High speed stability

4. No ABS/EBD & airbags

Toyota Corolla Altis OCT 2009 Manual

Pros

1. Very comfortable

2. Good AC - chills in seconds

3. Excellent VFM

4. Good build quality

5. Handling

6. Gets 2nd/3rd/4th looks from almost everyone

7. Folding rear seats

Cons:

1. No USB Port

2. LCD Display with reverse camera

Honda Accord 2009 Sept Manual

Pros:

1. Overall comfort & show off value

Cons:

1. Does not make a very VFM buy

2. Fuel econ - 7-8kmpl on petrol

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Maruti Baleno:Pros:Ride Comfort and HandlingGood fuel efficiencyTrouble-freeCons:Slightly expensive spares for a Maruti.Cons:

No offence but i differ here. Baleno was i think the only sedan which had worst interiors(design and quality) for a 7-9lac sedan i have ever seen. It were almost like Alto at that time and also the build quality. And i think looks and interiors made that car a big time flop although it had good engine' date=' comfort, ride and handling.[/quote']No BS, I didn't mention about the Interior quality anywhere!!! smiley11.gifYou are right! The Interior plastics doesn't feel rich. It was a 1994 design man!! We must admit: Even the first gen Honda City's Interiors was not of very good Quality; not even Lancer!!Interior Design is Ok to me, since there are lots of cubby-holes; plus rattles-free even after clocking more than 1 lakh kilometers!
Yes you didnt mentioned it anywhere and thats why i said that you must have mentioned it in CONS of the car.

And yes the OHC and Lancer were not having that great quality but much much better than Baleno and atleast they were best of their time which was not with Baleno. See i am not critisizing your car, i was just pointing out the Cons of the car and nothing else. No offence meant.

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Why is it that we do not speak Good about our own products like TATA & MAHINDRA.???? 

 

even the NEW INDICA received very poor Media attention...????

 

Why are we so shy to praise our own products in the first place....???

 

but very comfortable praising  all other country products..???

 

Lets wake up Gentlemen .................TATA is making world class cars these days purely for Indians Taste......

 

Mahindra's Xylo & Scorpio 's fit & finish can be compared with all imported cars today ...................

 

Lets appreciate them for the hardwork they do first, give them our TOP PRIORITY in complimenting them in whatever possible ways like telling the best things about them in these kinds of forums & other media's...

 

Americans praise GM ---

Japanese praise TOYOTA ----

Koreans praise HYUNDAI ----

Germans praise MERCEDES -----

Italians praise FIAT ---------

 

Let we Indians Praise TATA & MAHINDRA first..........take your initiative Today.......

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I dont think anybody is shy here about TATA or MAHINDRA..!

Its just when we are talking about the products its pros and cons , the Fit and finish of the CARS of these indian car makers is always found compromised.

 

compromise is in indian pschycology . TATA and MAHINDRA knows this, whenever they present a model internationally , it is totally different than the one they sell to INDIAN masses.

 

The products are used by common Indian people who really doesnt care about the plastic quality or dashboards..

the ABS, EBD and airbags , power windows are still a luxury for most of the people.

Its the segment they cater and they are strategic at their places. you will see the change when TATA will present JAGUAR and LR to indian people, its for a different segment and those will be world class products.

 

For example check Indica VISTA anniversary edition, its a definately good car in all respect.it has a leather finish dual tone dash and the quality of interior is just amazing. now again its a TATA.

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Let we Indians Praise TATA & MAHINDRA first..........take your initiative Today.......

Actually i started this thread to give a complete insight of every segment in India, i did mention about vista, but then FRG came up with the idea that, owners can say better about their cars, so I don't want to proceed further.

 

So its Xylo/ Scorp owners turn now, but IIRC, I saw Xylo being discussed.

 

So SCORPIO owners, wake up

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2002 MARUTI SUZUKI ALTO LX

+ fuel efficiency

+ nimble handling

+ nice flat low seating(i personally like it)

+ no need of power steering if tires are well maintained

+ low cost of running

+ good steering feel

+ nice gear shift

- cramped rear seats and boot

- rattle creeps in after sometime

2008 YAMAHA FZ-16

+ stunning looks

+ great handling,easy to drive in city

+ daytime running instruments

+ good low end and mid range performance

+ gripy tires and the best brakes in segment

+ good service from yamaha

- tires tend to wear out early if ridden on bad roads

- upwards of 90 km/h lacks performance

- shrill horn

since nobody has written about automatic scooters, which is fast growing in the country, let me take the initiative

2004 SCOOTY PEP

+ nimble handling

+ good mileage

+ nice transmission

- utmost care has to be taken about service intervals

- blunt performance

2007 KINETIC FLYTE

+ good performance and handling

+ good high speed and straight line stability

+ storage space

+ good built quality

- service from kinetic

- functioning of the spring of fuel tank

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2006 Honda Civic 2.0 i-Vtec

pros:

excellent torque high in the rev band

very smooth paddle shifts

sound system rocks!

looks are simply too good

interior is also light years ahead of competition

cruise control

free-revving engine

cons:

low GC though it doesn't matter here much

less torque in the lower part of rev band

black paint hard to maintain (though can't blame the car for this)

seats are wee-bit low and could have been higher

that's all

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@bossottoelango

No one here has anything against TATA and Mahindra. The simple fact is they make overall sub-par cars when compared to their international competitiors. Yes, they have quite a few pros too but these cars still lack meny things which make them undesirable for anyone who can afford products from other companies.

 

Praising them knowing they are not as good as others and just because they are Indian would be just wrong.

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Agree with asethi919, this applies to the Scorpio - its interiors look dated - akin to the Mitsubishi Lancer maybe!?! For a vehicle which costs around 10Lacs one expects decent interior design, adding faux wood doesnt makeup for a dated design!!

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@bossottoelango

I agree dear.  We are in the habit of watering down even exemplary achievements.  A classic case is Nano.  All over the world, including advanced markets like France, Germany, UK, USA, have been praising Nano while in India, we made a big hue and cry about clogging the roads etc.,  After a long while, I got a number of calls/enquiries from my relatives/friends who are based in these markets seeking info on Nano and it's impact here.  Most of these are calling me after a very very long time.  Such is the enthusiasm and interest this small car had generated abroad.  None of the hundreds of auto companies (including the likes of Honda, Toyota, GM, Ford, Hyundai, Fiat, Suzuki etc.,) have taken up this (they could have easily done this with millions and billions of dollars for their annual R&D works) while an Indian company which has just started to stabilize and grow has taken the lead and developed this beauty (with hardly any financial clout).  I am really proud for what TATAs have done to auto industry and for their inclination to give more than they could given the financial constraints.  

However, when the product is good (need not be an excellent product...) and is offered as a VFM product, usually the product gets sold.  This is the only reason for my selecting a Xylo over Innova.  And, I am quite happy to have a good Indian product.   I am equally happy when I see Scorpios, Aces, Indicas, Indigos competing, winning and selling in good numbers.  For example, Manza is no way inferior to either City/Fiesta/SX4/Verna.   As already told by none other than Tata himself, Tata is no longer an Indian brand or an Indian company/group.  It is a true MNC entity now.  Truly global and operating in many countries.   I am proud of Tatas (and Mahindras, Bajajs).

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Hyundai i10 Asta, automatic , with sunroof -- Purchased new in sep 09

Pros--

  1. Good for city driving, although found good for highways too.
  2. More safety features ( although they come at more price)
  3. Peppy engine for an automatic. Also very quite with less vibrations.
  4. Loaded with equipment being top most varient.
  5. Above average looks.
  6. Good for small family.
  7. Hyundai A. S. S. is better.

Cons --

  1.  Thin tires and no alloy wheels.
  2. Bumpy suspensions.
  3. Weak Headlights and horn --weaker than alto's.
  4. Pricey for a small hatch.
  5. Front and back bumpers are too soft and are bound to crack on slow impact also.
  6. Height adjustable seats missing and same for seatbelts.

Regards,

Amit

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Chevy Beat

 

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*Price,

*Space ,

*Looks,

*Interiors ,

*Handling ,

*Suspension ,

*Performance ,

*Refinement ,

*SAFETY ,

*Chevy Promise,

*Mileage  

 

(* Small Boot Space, *its a Chevy, *Skinny Tyres, *MJD coming in may be 6 months)

 
creativebala2010-02-02 03:42:11

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From my side..though not relevant in India I guess.

 

1.Honda Jazz:

Pros:

Smooth and refined engine

Quality

Comfy seats

Fuel efficent

Cons:

CVT rubberbanding effect on hard accelration

Reverse gear beep sound

a bit bouncy perhaps

 

2.Mitsubishi I

Pros :

Features for a small car ( remote key fob,auto ac, automatic lamps/wiper)

Unique..rear engined and rear wheel drive

Cute looks, though some might call it weird

Quality

Peppy engine for city

Seamless shifting auto

Value

 

Cons:

Not as spacious as Daihatsu move ( though we dont need so much space)

Maybe will need premium gasoline as compression ratio is a high 10.8:1

 

Thats all from my side..

 

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My Cars comparo

Swift - Spark

 

Swift's strength being its Driver seat comfort, Handling & Low end torque but it burns your pocket( Both Service cost & FE)

 

Spark's being its small size yet superb package, atleast 30% more FE than swift, peppy( when no AC), very very pocket friendly( Both FE and 0 Rs maintainance)

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My Cars Pros and Cons:

Ford Ikon 1.4 ROCAM(2004,50000km):

Pros:

*Sporty Looks

*Brilliant chassis

*Good Interior Space

*Decent Engine

Cons:

*Build quality poor

*Lacks few features

*Engine requires frequent servicing

*Average FE (8-9kmpl in City, 11kmpl on Highways)

Toyota Qualis(2002, nearly 1.8 lakh kms)

Pros:

*Good space inside

*Easy to drive

*Cheap maintenance and reliable

*Engine feels it could run forever

*Decent ride and stability on Highways

Cons:

*Boxy looks

*Lacks features

*Handling is average

*Difficult to remove rear spare wheel mounted under boot.

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Maruti 800. How can we forget this baby. smiley1.gif

 

Pros

First car of many, within reach

never asks too much on maintenance

easily repairable, spare are also in reach

decent space

easily manuverable in city

 

Cons

 

it never asks too much but never gives too much

doors get noisier soon

no safety frills

low FE

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