sram63

Fiat Palio 1.6v GTX Sports

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Hi All,

I have a Palio 1.6v GTX sports and am based in Cimbatore. I put the car for servicing with the My TVS Group. Till the time I gave the car for servicing it was running very good. Once after servicing I am facing problem galore. During the servicing I had to change the timing belt, changed the headlights and had the oil changes etc. After servicing the alternator went kaput and had to pay again for the same. After it came back from the alternator repairing the car started to shudder and when taken back to the service station they came up with a new problem of the fuel injector being blocked and replaced one injector. I drove the vehicle for 4 days and yesterday it started to miss fire. The problem analysed was that the crank sensor is not working and the throttle body has to be replaced. I fail to understand that I had no problem in driving this car from June to October and now half of the time my car is in the service station and am just spending money based on the service stations word. Can somebody help me in getting this problem solved.

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BornFree2009-11-27 13:02:24

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Hi,

I have tried that also. I feel that a known devil is better than a unknown angel. Is there any way somebody who is an expert in palio cars based in chennai or coimbatore who can help me out.

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I have a feeling that parts have been swapped from your car.

We do have a member from Chennai who used to own a GTX. He should be able to recommend a good mechanic.

5u3zEr0 - where art thou?

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Yes Subzero might be able to guide you to a good place. If I remember correctly, he didn't give it to the authorised service centre.

The service does look a little fishy. Could you give us details of the bill if its not too much trouble.

FRG

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sram just welcomed you to the forum and am sorry to read about your car here. Things should hopefully even out soon. As our dear FRG, a new 1.6 L Palio owner has suggested, you can contact Subzero who owned a similar car in Chennai till not so long ago!

I also believe that TVS workshops are among the best in South India still! I may be corrected here.

anjan_c20072009-11-27 15:41:57

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Hi FRG,

Thanks for your reply and help. Yes, i also feel the same. The first time i gave it for servicing The timing belt and bearings were changed as there was a sound which was heard when the car used to run slow. At that time i paid a bill of Rs. 20000 which included a labour charge of Rs. 4600 and the parts were for Rs. 15500. The day i took the car from the service station in the evening the car's battery got drained out and had to call the breakdown guys of My TVS who charged me Rs. 500. When i took up this matter with My TVS top bosses they then took the car and gave it some other franchisee of their to set the alternator. The bill for that was Rs. 5500. When the car was returned to me it started to shudder and stop. With repeated complaints My TVS came to the conclusion that the piston and valve had to be replaced. The car then was taken to the first service station who did the timing belt changes and they came to the conclusion that the fuel injector was blocked which i changed and was presented with a bill of Rs. 16000. For four days the car was running smoothly and then again it conked off. I somehow drove the car from Tirupur to Coimbatore and when it reached the service station it refused to start again. The analysis of the service station was that the crank sensor is gone and that the throttle body has to be changed. The estimate according to them for changing these is approx Rs. 12000 - 15000. I have refused to pay and am working with people known to me and also with auto car forum to get this problem solved and that i need not spend any money further and that the car will run for a long time. The mechanics of the car is very good and it is only the electronics and the electricals that is playing havoc now.

Need your experience and guidance on the same.

thanks.

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Hi,

The Car after coming from the service station runs well for 3 - 4 days and then some problem or the other crops up. The service station then gives me a run down as to why you bought this car, the spares are not easily available. It is ridden with problems etc etc.. Since i love fiat and driving a palio is a experince in itself i am tolerating whatever is being said but then don't you feel that there is a limit to everything. I am in touch with people in mumbai to help me out of this mess and that my car runs at its best.

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Thanks for your reply and help.

Hopefully this thing should be sorted out at the earliest. Regarding my TVS i beg to differ after what i have gone thru. All they do is talk and fleece you to the maximum. I think that they have no clue as to how to repair a Palio.

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Hi, Thanks.

What do i do now. I will have to put in a new crank sensor to alteast start the car and making it moving. Regarding the throttle body i can still work out by moving at a reasonable speed so that there is no missing due to which the car stops. I have contacted a couple of people in Mumbai and Delhi for the parts as the price quoted by the service station is very high. My fear is that once i put in these parts and get the car back to driving, maybe some other problem could be highlighted. I am at loss of words.

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Yes, it would be of great help. The part nos are as below :

CRANK SENSOR - C 1 4 2 4 7 9 9 7 5

THROTTLE BODY - 4 6 S X F 3 / B 0 0 7 1 2.

I will be getting the prices from Delhi in the next couple of hours from one source and the other source would give me the price by the evening.

If you are going to opera house then get in touch with Shah Motors - Mr. Mahendra Bhai Shah - Tel # 2388 3333. This contact is from a source in Kolhapur. I will be speaking to Mr. Shah in a short while from now and give you the info on my talk.

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Spoken to Mr. Shah of Shah Motors, he will come back to me on Monday on the parts only and only if he gets a genuine packed piece. According to him in opera house Throttle body that is being sold is second hand, that has been taken from some other vehicle, cleaned and rectified for which there is no guarantee. I will keep you posted on developments from Delhi also.

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Thanks for your reply and help.

Hopefully this thing should be sorted out at the earliest. Regarding my TVS i beg to differ after what i have gone thru. All they do is talk and fleece you to the maximum. I think that they have no clue as to how to repair a Palio.

Sorry to read the trauma and the inflated bills that you had to bear.It then means that TVS workshops are not reliable as of now.

Lets get the good news fast that your Palio is again back to normal and has started delivering the punch on the roads!

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Hi Sram.....Sorry to read about the problems of your Palio. First tell me know how much has your car run, which model is it and when did you buy it? Did you give the car for the first time at MyTVS and immediately did the car started giving problems? Or where you servicing the car somewhere else?

All these problems coming at the same time one after the another, does sound fishy to me. Though I have changed many parts of my Palio over the time it was with me (5 years and 66,000 kms) the problems were not simultaneous. TVS were the authorised service centre for FIAT when I bought the car but I just gave the car to them for service just a couple of times as the car was under warranty. Their service levels were good and I did not have much to comlain. At the same time I was getting the car modified at Electra Automotive on OMR and after the initial two services with TVS, I sent my car for everything to Electra till I sold it.

Abot the Alternator, it was replaced twice in my Palio! But that could be beacuse of my powerful audio system with 2 amps and my car had done 71,000kms in total. The first time the alternator failed was around 40,000kms if I remember correctly and it costed 10,000. But the good side is that the parts in the alternator like the rectifier, bearing, etc. are also available separately and so you can just replace parts also.

The shuddering which you talk about also happened to me, is it like suddenly the car will lose power and you would have to switch off the a/c if you wanted to run the car? It was erratic and I drove the car around for 2/3 weeks like this till we clearly found out what the problem was. It was diagnosed to the ignition coil which sits on top of the engine and after replacing it the car was perfect. This happened when the car had done around 25,000kms I think.

The guys who tell you why I bought this car are *****. Agreed it is a little expensive to maintain but the smile it puts on your face when you drive it hard is nothing compared. It is a car bought with your heart!

Please reply to my questions above and lets see what I can do to make your car moving again.

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