Mr. Spock

new swift -pulling to left side

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I have new swift 1.2 which has done 1400kms in 6months. the problem I am facing is that swift pulls to left even though the steering is remains straight and there is whoosh sound whenever my swift goes over speed brakers or bumps. what could be problem ?wheel alignment from mass not satifactory . shall I replace the tyres and do the wheel alignment from any other wheel alignment shop. Does anyone know good tyre shop and wheel alignment specialist in New Delhi.   eagerly awaiting reply .thanks in advance

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A friend had a similar problem with his M800. After fooling around for a year the problem was diagnosed as different tyre diameters. So just swap the LH and RH tyres and see. If the problem switches then you will know the culprit. If I remember right his can came with JK's.

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@sgiitk - thanks . I will try out your suggestion and see if problem persists. the JK tyres  are noisy , small stone gets embedded in the gap between Tyre treads  and I am planning to replace them  .Any suggestion for specific Tyre brand and what size?

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Mr.Spock: If the problem persists then it is not the tyres, and we start thinking of something else. I will go over to Bridgestone or Michelin. Some people also like Yokohama and Goodyear. Normally plus 1 is what you may think of, i.e. the next wider tread with a reduced aspect so that the overall diameter remains the same. I in general will not look towards wider rims.

One safe bet is to change wheels + tyres to the size used in the ZXi.

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Could most probably be the alignment, a binding brake, etc. You may have to go outside of the MS network to a good tyre shop. However, considering they are JKs first things first.

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Hi its silly but check the tyre pressure in front two tyres shld be equal if not it may pull to side on lower pressure ,some times the wheel alignment is done with out cosidering the road natural slope to left for water to flow to left ,As the road laid is not flat

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@Mr.Spock;

That problem seems to be with the Wheel Alignment probably, as Difference in diameter of Wheels mainly leads to the Wobbling of the Car's End where smaller Wheel is Installed & that's too at 70-80kmph+ Speeds.

As noticed on my friend's Indica DiCOR, who's having One 145/80-R13 tyre fitted on the Front Driver Side, while all its OEM Other tyres are 165/65-R14 sized.

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@nishu: here all tyres are of the same size' date=' with the same rim diameter, and the same age! [/quote']

 

This is what I'm trying to say, sir..

Mr.Spock's car is Pulling to the left side(Probably due to Improper Alignment) not Wobbling(due to uneven tyre diameters).
dr_nishu2010-10-01 07:46:14

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Nishu just see your post

One 145/80-R13 tyre fitted on the Front Driver Side' date=' while all its OEM Other tyres are 165/65-R14 sized.[/quote']

Both the rim and tyre widths are different. It will pull.

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Pulling in a direction can be due to the following things:

1. uneven tire pressure

2. uneven tread wear

3. a failed suspension component: which may lead to point two.

Do one thing: see if there is inner tread wear on the Tyre on the side to which the car is pulling. If there is, you have a BIG problem.. it is either suspension damage or even worse, it might be chassis issues.

The best way to solve this temporarily is two have 2PSI more in the side to which the car is pulling. BUT, this is not a permanent solution, there fore go to a Wheel balancing shop. and get the car done. Dont bother going to MASS, as if you think they actually do wheel balancing, you are mistaken.

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@cyrus - could you elaborate on suspension or chassis issues?

Due to this CWG 2010 I am unable to venture out to any independent wheel alignment specialist (as My house is right next to CWG venue ) so entering my own house is becoming a nightmare.

I will check the inner thread of tyres  tomorrow. also road though smooth are are either too banked on one side or having undulation - should I drive the car over concrete roads and see if it is pulling?

@nishu - all the tyres and alloys( factory fitted ) are same - its brand new swift 1.2.

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A friend had a similar problem with his M800. After fooling around for a year the problem was diagnosed as different tyre diameters. 

Ha ha ha.

It is beyond my imagination. Two tyres of same company stamped as same ratings but different in size!!

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@Alok: Took them over five months to suspect this, since nobody ever suspected it. JK changed the tyre under warranty and all was well. Only he swore never to buy JK ever!

One other quick check, exchange front & rear wheels. The problem should go away or reduce by a huge degree, if this is indeed the case.

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@nishu - No trouble started after first service .

This is the crux. What happened in the first service? If there was a wheel rotation, then what I say is likely. If there was an alignment then that needs to be checked. If neither then we have to look further - binding brakes, etc.

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You can easily check for the 5-wheel rotation - see the spare and whether it has a yellow paint band on it or now. 4-wheel rotation will not be detected. Why not just exchange tyres (front to back, all 4) or left to right (front two only) and see. One reason why I insist on taking my cars to (and from) the workshop is to keep tab on what is being done.

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Sg sir is saying exactly right Mr.Spock & I agrre with him.

Definitely the problem is with Uneven Worn Tyre at the Front left side, which leads to pulling.

Also do get its Wheel Alignment done from a Trustable & Well-Reputed Tyre Shop.

Hope your Problem will be Rectified soon.

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Update

I gave the car for alignment to nearby shop( Hyundai authorized  service station) - its really alignment problem . Since he doesn't have the computerized machine( technician who Knows it is on leave) so used thread technique but problem is solved to some extent . I personally took more than 3 test drive to be  sure that the problem is solved to some extent .

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Update

I gave the car for wheel alignment again , now went to star wheels in gurgoan .there is now pulling of the car to right.

Also I am facing other problems-

1. I have to crank the engine 2- 3 times to start in mid day.I don't use car daily only ocassionally.also tank is always halffull. this problem started after first service when Mass cleaned fuel tank in first service

2. there is excessive whoosh noise coming from front suspension - i had shown it to Mass they said it is normal. But I feel it is excessive

Being a subscriber to Autocar magazine I contacted helpline but I am dissappointed that they have still not contacted me or even acknowledged my email . It has been 18 days still no reply . So I have decided to contact Maruti . I feel that there is no use to subscribing to this magazine , if subscriber is not given reply to his email. This issue is making very sad as well angry. I know that people in autocar are busy but basic courtsey should be followed.

@mods - please change the heading of the topic to problems in new swift or whatever is approriate heading

thanks

ap

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Update- 1.9.2010

Now all problems I am facing are solved. On Saturday I got a call from Competent Motors and Rana Motors and I gave the car to Competent Motors

The problem was mainly wheel alignment which has been solved, though other minor problems I had mentioned were taken care.

I want to make a special mention about editorial of Autocar India which takes a special care of its  subscriber- Iam very pleased with their response to my email - 10/10 . Thank You Autocar India.

So with this case of My swift stands closedsmiley36.gif

@mods - please change the topic to problems in New Swift

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