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My BMW upgraded to Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Staggered Setup)

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Front : 225/45 R18

Rear : 245/40 R18

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Michelin Super Sports;

These are the current best tires in the Michelin stable (Road tire);

OE Fitted on cars like : Ferrari 599 GTO, BMW M5 etc

Speed Rating : Y (>300 km/hr)

Other options considered;

1) Michelin Pilot Sport 3;

No stock in my size

2) Yokohama Advan Sport

No stock anywhere

Also considered as these were in stock;

3) Dunlop Direzzas - Were more than a year old (Manufacturing)

4) Potenza RE 050

^ The above two available were 245/40s (square setup) - Was available for 21.5k/ Tire

Note : OE Good Year Runflats were costing aprox 25k/Tire

Eyeing the Michelin Pilot "Super Sports";

Ever since id seen these tires on an M5 i have had a soft corner for them.

I got a quote in India for the SuperSports of Rs 1,75,000/-

^ That was way to steep IMO.

So i did a quick research on the same on TIRE RACK.com & found out they were costing aprox < 1000$

Which made me wonder why not ship them in from the US

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I mailed tire rack and i asked them for a quote for a quote.

I got an quick response from them within a couple of hours that the tires were available with them in STOCK & with shipping to India would cost 1431 U$.

Promised delivery time 3-4 business days

Which was aprox Rs 75,000 for a set (staggered)

I thought of going ahead with the quote from tirerack.com & ordered them online where i had got an quote of Aprox INR 75,000(U$ 1431)

The import duty & clearance charges had to be paid on delivery (which i was expecting it to be aprox (6k/tire)

Payment;

I did the payment through credit card during mid week (Wednesday night IIRC) & that day itself i was informed the tires were shipped through

FedEx priority & i had received the docket number to keep a track.

Delivery;

3 business days i.e. on a Monday afternoon i had received the tires at my door step.

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^ now that was bloody impressive.

Packaging - Surprisingly the tires came in naked, just strapped together. I was expecting some corrugated box packaging biggrin.gif

Duty;

The duty with octroi which was to be paid was amounting to aprox INR 30,000

The split up of the duty is as follows;

BCD (10%) + CVD (12%) + CESS (0%) + EDU. CESS (3%) + SAD (4%) + OTHER (0%) = TOTAL DUTY RATE (28.85%)

Octroi : 6k (For the set of 4)

Service Charge (by FedEx) = Rs 800

So all in all the net landed cost for the " staggered setup " was aprox Rs 1.05 Lakhs (for the set)

Saving of atleast Rs 70,000/- as compared to local quotes :)

Fitting was done at SUPER TYRES, Mulund (W);

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The tires took time to get on the RIMS. The compound was "unusually soft" (as noted by the worker) & was a task for the people @ Super tires to get used to.

However after the 1st tire was in they kinda mastered the art.

+ the 245s(for the rear) snapped on in a fairly shorter time.

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^ Fitting cost with balancing : Rs 800

Key observations post Fitment & after 500 kms of running in;

1) Ride quality;

These Michelins are super soft & the way the car rides on smooth roads is of a different level altogether, also on the rough patches (not that i have tried going at high speed over the rough roads but still) the ride quality has increased to a great extent.

2) Increased traction;

The stock RFTs in the 225 setup were struggling for traction off the line and somehow i felt betrayed when i got Good Year as OE when globally Conti Sport Contact 5 & Potenza s001 were offered as OE too.

The supersports are doing the job really well. Thanks to the staggered setup the rear 245s are coping well with the launches & pedal to the metal action in the first couple of gears. Have a strange feeling that my sprint to the 100 has become better by a margin.

Mind you the car still wheel spins in Sport+ mode (on concrete roads) but on tarmac it is crisp nonetheless.

3) Handling;

The car feels very confidence inspiring now.

Also another point here about the car not the tires is that sometimes it is so engaging to drive that one doesn’t even have time to look at the speed on the HUD display.

I can now really throw the PSS-shod F30 into the corner and it would stick and rotate with minimal push. On the other hand, the OE Goodyears felt unstable, like it was bouncing or hopping, which was unsettling during hard braking.

So in short the PSS do what you expect a high performance tire to do i.e. keep the car steady and controlled, letting you properly set up for your turn-in.

4) Bounciness / flat rear end;

I had reported in my review of the F30 that the rear isn’t as flat/planted as desired.

However now, thanks to Wider, stickier rubber at the back this has reduced to a certain extent.

5) Better Braking;

Yes, noticeable improvement in the braking.

Somehow i feel post fitment of the PSS, the Michelins allow harder brake pedal pressure before the ABS to kick in.

6) Stance Correction;

The wider track offered by the rear 245 setup looks much more better & much deserved for the large 18"ers

Was wanting to go for the 255's at rear but would have needed 8.5J rim width so couldnt have gone wider than the 245s.

However the car is now standing with a more commanding stance.

7) Weight Reduction/Lighter Tires;

The OE stock Good Year 225/45 R18 weighed 27 lbs/tire

Squared setup set weight ( 27 x 4 ) = 108 lbs

In comparison the Super Sports (new setup);

Front – 225/45 weigh 22 lbs/tire , Rear 245/40 weigh 24 lbs/Tire

Staggered set Setup weight (22x2+ 24x2) = 92 lbs

Total weight reduction = 16 lbs (7.25 Kg)

This reduction of unsprung weight has definitely helped handling

Edited by F30

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An eye opener into the business of tires.

Excellent as always .

Coming back to the economics , these are expensive even after being 70K cheaper than your original quote , Just wondering how will you accommodate for the rotation of tires, as the permutations and combination have just dried out coz of the setup .

Also how long do these last.

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Great write up F30. I like your attention to detail. Tire rack seems very efficient too. Looking forward to more updates as you add on the kms on the car with the new rubber

Thank You !

Great update F30. Enjoy a troublefree ride now with the Beemer.

Thanks dkaile,

Good to see you here :)

Coming back to the economics , these are expensive even after being 70K cheaper than your original quote , Just wondering how will you accommodate for the rotation of tires, as the permutations and combination have just dried out coz of the setup .

Also how long do these last.

Yes Tire rotation is an disadvantage, have to live with that fact.

The life should be at-least 20,000 kms for Indian conditions, can stretch it upto 30,000 kms too.

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Thanks for sharing F30, Tire Track is definitely a good source to know...I guess you would be first one on forum to use it.

TireRack.com will be only good for the odd sizes(18" >), rest available in Indian market at a decent price.

Thanks :)

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Firstly, these Michelins looks superb in your BMW, with the beauty added by their width & tread design.

Michelins always have edge towards performance & on road-grip that's why they comes at a price & the reason for which manufacturers skip these tyres as OEM tyres on the cars specifically in cost-sensitive markets.

Even 'apollo' is a global OEM tyre supplier for VW Passat but still i always preferred 'The Tyres' than 'Tyres' alone.

Coming onto the topic again, The Performance gain, the price gain which you illustrated above is really considerable & does makes the difference.

Happy Motoring & do Drive safely.

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Coming onto the topic again, The Performance gain, the price gain which you illustrated above is really considerable & does makes the difference.

Happy Motoring & do Drive safely.

Indeed it does :)

Thanks

Michelin is a great improvement over Good years !

Enjoy your ride ! ;)

Hi Shitij,

Thanks i agree as the Good Year Excellence were touring tires & the Michelins are Extreme Performance Summer Tires

:P

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