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  1. I have set the Overspeeding Alarm at speed of 80kph in DDAS (Digital Drive Assist System) of our Xylo E8 (ABS) so that whenever a person tries to cross 80kph' date=' the DDAS beeps and warns the driver.

    I myself upshift the gears at 2000rpms.
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    I am not sure about the turbo kick in the Xylo, But as far as Manza, Dzire is concerned the real power spurts in only at 2000rpm. What will you do in this regard.

    Please read my Quote Carefully. I have already answered that I am upshifting gears at 2000rpm as per recommendation of M&M (not exceeding 2000rpm in any gear). I will be driving like this till 1st Service at 5000kms even if M&M recommended the 3000kms mark. I have our Driver too to drive below 2000rpms till 5000kms.

       At 5000kms Service (1st Free Service) Engine Oil is to be changed as per M&M Recommendation. Then may be I will use the vehicle to its full potential.

     

      The Manufacturers do a lot of R&D and hence advise the Running-In of Vehicle.

      I dont know whether the Manufacturers advise the Running-In for Our Benefit (so that we get Best from our Vehicle for Long Time)smiley4.gif or for Fear of Blowing of Engine, Transmission, and Other Partssmiley18.gif. May be Experts like FRG, 325i could put light on this matter.smiley1.gif

     

    EDIT:

    I feel Bad for Ramesh Babusmiley18.gifsmiley6.gif that the M&M Service Guys advised him to change Engine Oil at 1000kms and 5000kms despite M&M recommendation of 1st Engine Oil change at 5000kms (not at 1000kms).
    sudeepd2009-11-20 16:39:10

  2. Those restrictions have become Myths I guess' date=' because modern cars have become soo advanced that virtually nothing harms them at all.

    Has anyone read in any user manual of car that it shouldnot be driven beyond a particular speed for X kms?

    I dont recall having read such a thing.

    So guys is it really necessary not to drive new vehicle beyond 60kmph or so??
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    The Owner's Manual of Mahindra Xylo RECOMMENDS to drive the car below 2000Rpms in each gear for initial 3000kms.

    That is why I have set the Overspeeding Alarm at speed of 80kph in DDAS (Digital Drive Assist System) of our Xylo E8 (ABS) so that whenever a person tries to cross 80kph, the DDAS beeps and warns the driver.

     

       I myself upshift the gears at 2000rpms.

  3. My new vehicle Xylo E8 has this Immobilizer. What are it's functions? How can I benefit from this?

    FYKI, I would like to mention that Xylo (all Variants) has Engine Immobiliser (I have not heard about any Car Immobilisersmiley2.gif). The Functions (Benefits) of this Engine Immobiliser are--

    1) The Engine Immobiliser has inbuilt Code which is matched with the Code built in Remote to Start the Engine.

    2) The Engine does not Start if the Car is Unlocked with Key instead of Remote and blows Alarm to alert the owner of the vehicle and neighbourhood.

    3) For Xylo, you can Turn Off the Alarm by pressing Lock and Panic Alarm Button simultaneously. (I have done this since the Beep Sound while Locking or Unlocking with Remote is Loud).

    4) The Engine Immobiliser thus protects the Theft of Vehicle (Since the vehicle does not start until it is Unlocked with Remote.
    sudeepd2009-11-19 13:32:43

  4. Make sure' date=' you don't engage Reverse gear after 5th by mistake, that might cause worry[/quote']

    It is not possible to Shift the Reverse Gear from 5th since there is an interlock which prevents accidental shifts from 5th to Reverse.

    I myself tried this on both of our Indigos long back.

    The Gear Lever does not get shifted to Reverse from 5th.


  5. Thanks DD for your advice.

      But my family members would not like the Xenon or Getaway when taken for outdoor family trips.

       I had another option of Sumo Grande in my mind. But ruled it out since the Tata Customer Care too is like their Dealers and Service Centers.

      So finalised on Xylo.

     

    Since you mentioned Xenon and Getaway, I would like to mention that earlier we were to buy Bolero. But afterwards my dad changed mind and decided to buy Xylo (I think he too did want to go in Bolero. So the Xenon and Getaway were out of the race for the identical reasons.)

     

    @Anjan

    Thanks.

    Appears you have posted pre-delivery woes.Your Indigo had post delivery usage woes mainly pertaining to the dealer. Now this one has started posing problems even before its delivery.Lets hope its ownership is a pleasure with you and does not prompt you to post threads of woes.

    Dont worry about this. When I complained to the Mahindra Xyloline-(09935066006) and said "Initially the Sales Executive promised me to bring the vehicle by transport and not driving. But now they are bringing the vehicle by driving and giving false information that the Trailer has brokedown and hence we have to bring the vehicle by driving. blah blah blah blah".

      The upper officials immediately scolded the dealer regarding the same and I got a call from the SE asking "Sir, why did you complain that we are bringing the vehicle by driving".

       So I am assured that Xyloline will take Suitable Actions if I complain against Poor After-Sales Service of the Dealer.

     

       I liked the Response of Mahindra & Mahindra Customer Care.

    Hope Tata Motors Ltd. will learn from them.

     

    So Guys, if you have any problems regarding your Xylos (I dont know whether this number is for other M&M vehicles too), feel free to contact at the above mentioned number. Also there is TollFree number too-18001026006.
    sudeepd2009-11-06 14:49:52

  6. The Dealer is to going to bring the car driving the Xylo all the way from Nasik to Solapur, a distance of around 400-450kms.

                     Initially the Dealer promised me to bring the car by Transport and not by driving. But later the Sales Manager told me that the car is being brought by driving.

             When I complained to the Mahindra Xyloline at 09935066006, the Customer Care scolded the Dealer (Gandhi Motors, Solapur). And when my dad called the Dealer to know the Status of the delivery, the latter asked my dad "Sir, why did you complain to Mahindra about us"?

                My Dad scolded me for complaining to Mahindra and warned me not to complain against the dealer or else he will not give good after-sales service.

                Because of the ****** Dealer, my dad scolded me for the mistake I did not do.

          I hope Mahindra comes to know about this and they take suitable action on this matter.

  7. And on an average' date=' they are charging my uncle around Rs.5000 for service! I felt it to be day-time robbery!![/quote']

    Its indeed a day-time robbery.

    Even if Engine Oil is changed, car is washed, Cleaning the Air Filter, Spark Plugs, and some other Additional work (for that matter Wheel Alignment) does not add up to Rs.5000/-

        Engine Oil +Oil Filter around Rs.1000/-.

        Regular Servicing (Washing, Cleaning Air Filter and Spark Plugs) Rs.400-500/-.

        Wheel Alignment Rs.200/- (if only Front) and Rs.350/- (Both Front and Rear.

          Now do the total your self and see whether it comes to Rs.5000/-.

     

    So guys Please Stop Praising Hyundai that it is Low on Maintenance.

    Its not the Manufacturer which (intentionally not typed who) decides Maintenance Costs but its we Consumers who decide.

            The Service Costs of our Both Diesel Indigos are much less than Maruti.

     I buy the Engine Oil from outside (Castrol CRB Turbo 15W40 CH4. Tata Motors Ltd recommended 15W40 CF4 or better) and go to the TASS and get changed. The cost of the Castrol CRB Turbo 15W40 CH4 is Rs.2900/- for 15 Liters Pack. The Oil Change requires 5.5 Liters.

     Washing Rs.125/-

      I myself clean the Air filter at home.

     

     So in the cost of Servicing our Indigo--

      Engine Oil Change every 7,000kms for Indigo LS and every 9000kms for Indigo XL, Washing at TASS (every month. BTW our Driver cleans both cars everyday), Wheel Alignment (every 10K-15K).

            Engine Oil Rs.1000/-+ Oil Filter Rs.170/- + Labour Rs.100/- for Oil Change + Wheel Alignment at Alternate Oil Change (Rs.350/- Front & Rear).

        2000(Two Oil Changes) +340 (Two Oil Filters) + 200 (Labour) + 350 (Alignment)=Rs.2890/-

    I can carry out Two Oil changes and 1 Wheel Alignment at cost of Rs.2890/-

      So how does Hyundai charge Rs.5000/- for Single Service.

     

    For God's Sake, Please don't bash Tata for High Maintenance Costs.

  8. You can use Iftex Fuel Additive for 2/3 Wheelers. Now I dont remember the exact name since I have stopped using it way back and switched to Speed. Currently using Xtra Premium in my Feb 2007 Bajaj Pulsar 180 DTSi (LCD).

     

    Also Bardahl Addtive can be used in Apache 160 Fi. Just check that the bottle mentions "Use in 2/3 Wheelers" and not "4Wheelers". The Additive for 4 Wheelers is different from 2/3 Wheelers.

     

    So you can choose whether to go for Iftex or Bardahl or Branded Premium Fuel.

     

    One more option for you is You can use Shell Premium Petrol if its available in your city. I have read a lot on this forum (and some websites too) that Shell Premium Fuels are Much Better in terms of Smoothness, Pickup, Mileage, Low CO, etc.

    My Bad Luck- We dont have a Shell Pump in our City Solapur.

  9. Thanks Mr. Rameshbabu for your valuable advice and your wishes.

    But like I had already mentioned that if we buy the car from the Solapur Dealer, he would ask his driver to bring the car driving from Pune to Solapur (a distance of around 250-300kms). I would have no issue if the dealer's driver FOLLOW THE SPEED LIMIT OF 80 KPH (2000RPM) while bringing the car to Solapur.

    If the driver act Stupidly and drive the car at speeds in excess of 100-120kph, it would strain the Engine and also the friction would be more.

    Also While overtaking he would use the lower gear up to 3000-3500rpm. This again will have adverse effects on the NEW Engine.

    So what do you suggest?

    I am not sure whether the car would be brought to Solapur by Transport (Cargo) or by driving all the way at speeds in excess of 120kph, frequent acceleration, gearshifts, braking.smiley6.gifsmiley7.gif

  10. I request MODs to keep the Off-Topic part since it is intentionally posted.smiley1.gif

    First some Off-Topic introduction (This might help to know the background of Vehicle Usage after Purchase)--

    As my profile indicates, we are Maharashtra State Electricity Distribution Co. Ltd. Electrical Contractors. We undertake Erection-cum-Supply of MSEDCL Substations at various places. At most places, the substations are to be erected in rural areas and as such the roads are not suitable for Sedans. Our both Indigos' belly scrapped many times. So we need a MUV for "visiting/delivering some (Not Allsmiley36.gif) materials" at those Sites of MSEDCL Sub-Stations during the work is being carried.

    First we thought of buying Bolero as our budget was around 6.5-7.0 lakhs. But later we changed our decision and now going for Xylo since we want to use that MUV for occassional Family Tours. (I know we have to increase our budget and we did the same.)

     

    Now the On-Topic Part Follows--

    We are planning to buy Mahindra Xylo E8-ABS within next 8-10 days.

    We live in Solapur (Maharashtra). I have a doubt that if we buy the Xylo from Local Mahindra Dealer, would the MUV be brought to Solapur by driving or by Transport. If its brought by driving, would not the driver drive the car at more than recommended speed for first 1000kms (e.g 100-120kph) and frequent acceleration, gearshifts, and braking.smiley7.gif

    Is it OK to drive in such rash manner in MODERN Engines?smiley5.gif

    Or should we buy it from a Pune Dealer (I guess the Mahindra Plant is nearby Pune) since he must not have driven the car harshly?

    After purchase, the car would be used as per Mahindra Recommended Speeds (if I use it for first 1000kms. Most Probably I would).

     

    Please clear my doubts as soon as possible as we have to carry out the loan and other procedures.

    And I hope the answer to this thread will help many Prospective Buyers of Brand New Modern Vehicles.

    Experts, Please enlighten this thread with Valuable Information since this thread will help many other Readers (not alone me. Experts avoid answering my queries more often since I ask only for myself. So requesting them Politely, From Heart to answer this thread to benefit others too).

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  11. I request MODs to keep the Off-Topic part since it is intentionally posted.smiley1.gif

    First some Off-Topic introduction (This might help to know the background of Vehicle Usage after Purchase)--

    As my profile indicates, we are Maharashtra State Electricity Distribution Co. Ltd. Electrical Contractors. We undertake works of Erection-cum-Supply of MSEDCL Substations at various places. At most places, the substations are to be erected in rural areas and as such the roads are not suitable for Sedans. Our both Indigos' belly scrapped many times (even with Ground Clearance of 165mm). So we need a MUV for "visiting/delivering some (Not Allsmiley36.gif) materials" at those Sites of MSEDCL Sub-Stations during the work is being carried.

    First we thought of buying Bolero as our budget was limited to 6.5-7.0 lakhs. But later we changed our decision and now going for Xylo since we want to use that MUV for occassional Family Tours. And I did not like the DI Engine and Side Facing Third Row Seats of Bolero. (I know we have to increase our budget and we did the same.)

     

    Now the On-Topic Part Follows--

    We are planning to buy Mahindra Xylo E8-ABS within next 8-10 days.

    We live in Solapur (Maharashtra). I have a doubt that if we buy the Xylo from Local Mahindra Dealer, would the MUV be brought to Solapur by driving or by Transport. If its brought by driving, would not the driver drive the car at higher speeds more than recommended for first 1000kms (e.g 100-120kph) and with frequent acceleration, gearshifts, and braking since that car is not his own.smiley7.gif

    Is it OK to drive in such rash manner in MODERN Engines?smiley5.gif

    Or should we buy it from a Pune Dealer (I guess the Mahindra Plant is nearby Pune) since he must not have driven the car harshly?

    After purchase, the car would be used as per Mahindra Recommended Speeds (if I use it for first 1000kms. Most Probably I would).

     

    Please clear my doubts as soon as possible as we have to carry out the loan and other procedures.

    And I hope the answer to this thread will help many Prospective Buyers of Brand New Modern Vehicles.

    Experts, Please enlighten this thread with Valuable Information since this thread will help many other Readers (not alone me. Experts avoid answering my queries more often since I ask only for myself. So requesting them Politely, From Heart to answer this thread to benefit others too).
    sudeepd2009-10-19 14:24:21

  12. First Free service - 5' date='000 km or 4 months ownership.         Second Free service - 10,000 km or 8 months ownership
    On both occasions, engine oil and differential oil is changed and charged. No labour charges.[/quote']

    But why was the Engine Oil and Differential Oil changed at 5,000kms and 10,000kms?

    If I am correct then the Engine Oil needs replacement every 10,000kms, Differential Oil at 15,000kms and Transmission Oil at 20,000kms.

    Did your Owner's Manual specify to replace Engine Oil and Differential Oil at both 5,000kms and 10,000kms interval?

     

    BTW, you are getting nice Mileage. I am waiting to drive our very own one (Planning to buy E8-ABS even if its 18K costlier than E8-NonABS).

    Lets see what happens.
    sudeepd2009-10-19 09:37:10

  13. Heard about some 99k offer on Xylo' date=' needs to be confirmed![/quote']Speed, I did not expect this kind of Joke from your side.

    We are planning to buy Mahindra Xylo E8-ABS.

     When I enquired about the discounts at the Mahindra Dealer, Gandhi Motors, Solapur, the Sales Executive said "Sir Mahindra is not giving any discounts on Xylo and Scorpio as of now except the 4 Year Warranty (Xylo)". I told him that I read in Newspaper that Mahindra is offering some 50-60K discount along the 4 Year Warranty. He replied "Sir, I challenge you that Mahindra has not announced any Discount on Xylo since its Launch".

     

    I called Sahyadri Motors Pvt Ltd, Pune and asked the Lady there about the Discounts on Xylo. She replied same that there are no Discounts on Xylo except the 4 Year Warranty. I asked her "Isn't there any Discount on such a big occassion of Diwali also?". She replied "No Sir, there are no discounts for Even Diwali".

     

    You have posted that you have heard 99K offer on Xylo. But Two of the Mahindra Dealers each from Solapur and Pune, did not even offer RS.99/- Discount leave alone Rs.99,000/- Discount.smiley18.gif

     

    Henceforth, please confirm the news before posting.smiley2.gif

     

     

    By the way, if any one has Confirm News of Discounts on Xylo E8 apart from 4 Year Warranty, please let me know. I would be very Thankful to them.

     

    We are planning to buy E8 within next 8-10 days.

    (4 Year Warranty on Xylo must be around 5K-6K).
    sudeepd2009-10-19 09:24:55

  14. You SHOULD use Castrol Activ 20W40 (This complies with the Recommendation of Hero Honda for CBZ) or Castrol Activ Xtra 20W50 (This is Superior to Castrol Activ 20W40 at High Temperatures). The Cost Difference between Activ and Activ Xtra is around Rs.30-50/-. So now you decide which to go for.

     

    You can contact Castrol for Authorised Dealer Locator at below link-

     

    Now I am at Office. I will Post the Toll Free Contact Number when I reach Home. I have the CAN which has Toll Free Number. You can contact on that Number and ask the Details of you nearest Authorised Dealer.

     

    Off-Topic--

    BTW what parts did you change that amounted to WHOPPING Rs.11,000/-.

    Please specify the Bill in Detail.

  15. I dont know whether the Clutch for Ikon is Wet or Dry. If Wet (as said by FRG), get the Clutch system bled and refilled. If dry then you will have to change the Clutch Release Bearing to make the Clutch Soft.

     

    As for Heavy Steering, did you not Test Drive the Ikon before buying one?

     

    Test Drive another Ikon (Especially the Demo Model) and check for Clutch Hardness and Heavy Steering.

     

    If the Demo model has Light Steering, get the Power Steering System of your car checked for Correct Level of Oil and no air has been trapped in the system.

     

    One of my uncle lives in Bangalore. I had a chance to drive his Ikon (Petrol 1.6) since there was an occasion in their home. I did not feel the Clutch Hard. And yes the Driving Experience was Nice.smiley2.gif

    Just had one problem. The Stalks (Wiper and Headlight) are interchanged hence when I tried to turn the Headlights ON (Right Stalk) the wiper was switched ON. I did not know that Ikon has Stalks as per European Specs. So made this Silly mistake.smiley1.gif
    sudeepd2009-10-13 08:53:17

  16. Headlights come in pair and cost starts from 3000 onwards depending upon the car model and brand.

    As far as I know' date=' We can buy a Single Headlight Assembly Separately and no need to buy Pair unnecessarily if only one is required.

    Best Sound proofing of car cockpit from external noise.
    Merc is good is in this department as per ACI Road Tests.

     

    For Build Quality, I would mention Ford Ikon (I read somewhere that Ford Ikon fell from a height of 40 feet from under-construction flyover and still all the occupants were safe and alive), Fiat Linea (I read on Team-BHP that despite a Tata Tipper filled with Granite falling over the Linea, the 3 Occupants in Linea did not get even a scratch and the Owner of Linea was so impressed with the Build Quality of Linea that he went Straight back to the Fiat Showroom and booked another Linea since the older was total loss), Tata Indigo (a person on this forum hit an obstacle at 120 kph with his Indigo but was still able to drive the same car for 80kms after that crash), Tata Indica (Anjan Chatterjee posted a picture of Tata Indica which crawled under a road-side standing Tata Tipper but still the Occupants in Indica were Safe).

     

    I don't know about other vehicles.
    sudeepd2009-10-13 08:21:41