motorj3di

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  1. Are those the standard seats? Or is that a dealer option?
  2. Yes, how do we know that is the diesel version?
  3. I'm sorry, that's a nice design and all, but there's no reason for it to be a Mahindra. There's no link to the brand's current or past design language, and it could just be any old SUV. I re-iterate, it looks great, and I applaud a designer of Indian origin for coming up with a truly world-class design, but calling it a Mahindra just seems like a mutual pat on the back between the designer and Mahindra. You might as well slap a Tata badge on it, and everyone would have the same reaction. Let's be honest.
  4. Wow, it looks even less interesting than I thought it would. And that's not saying much.
  5. Congratulations, man! As someone keen to get (in line for) an EcoSport very soon and having never owned a Ford before, I'm curious to know what the experience has been like for you. As you are on your third Ford now, I'm sure you've had a good experience with the company. I've had Hondas for the past ten years, and they have been great with showroom, sales, after-sales and service. I went to a Ford dealership in Mumbai, and it was a disaster. The staff didn't seem to want to even try and sell me a car, they didn't know their product inside out, and worst of all, they were flippant about the waiting period - laughing at the fact that I can't book one until next year, and making jokes about the recall of the diesel model. "Haha, yeah we messed up big time," is along the lines of what the guy said. Now, I know the car is good, so I don't need them to sell it to me. As a result, the first impression of that showroom doesn't bother me too much. I just want to know that the same carelessness doesn't carry on in the workshop and service centre. I just want a little peace of mind. When I give my (eventual) Ford Ecosport in for its services and repairs, I just want it to be a straightforward, hassle-free process. Sorry to put a downer on this interesting thread, but like you, I enjoy Ford cars, and I really want to own one. :-)
  6. Still looks much better than the coupé in my opinion though, and has a better name by far.
  7. I see they're doing the same thing as the last M3, where the coupé and saloon share the same nose. i.e. the M3's nose is different from the regular 3-series, and uses the wider grille and slightly more slanty (?) headlights from the 4-series. I'm guessing this is in order to keep common bumper/bonnet/front wings for the two cars and save on costs. These M cars are niche products after all.
  8. The launch of the A-class really makes me wonder why they bothered launching the B-class here. Was it greed? Were they in a rush to offer an answer to the X1 and Q3 (the A-class wasn't ready in time)? Indian luxury buyers care mostly about image - and when you compare the two, A-class and B-class - there's no contest. Why would anyone buy the B-class anymore? I can almost guarantee no one is thinking about practicality in a Rs 22-25 lakh hatchback. Why would you buy an R-class over a GL-class? Same problem. The B-class barely does double-digit sales figures, and after the price hike as mentioned by PrancingHorse, that will become even worse. Mercedes-Benz India may have just shot itself in the foot.
  9. It appears to be the rear end from the soon-to-be-extinct (because Ford Australia is being shut down) Ford Territory (pictured). I, personally quite like it because it is a subtle look. However, India doesn't like subtle (see XUV500 for proof) so this will probably not work. For their own sake, I hope they bling it up a little.
  10. Does not make any sense. It's like that time they tried to squeeze in an 'i40' saloon in between the Elantra (i30) and the Sonata (i45). It's a niche too far. This would be great if it was less than 4m long, but looking at the pictures, unless it is currently 4001mm long, there's no way they could trim it down without extensive re-engineering. The problem is the Verna and the i20, obviously. How do they price it significantly lower than the former, but higher than the latter? Hyundai has a habit of offering too many variants, and people now equate Hyundai with 'equipment'. So they cannot make the HB20S a 'stripped out' car; no one will touch it. The only solution seems to be to kill off the two base engines of the Verna (the 1.4 petrol and diesel) and leave only the 1.6es, those seem to be the really popular ones anyway. Since the HB20 isn't sub-4m, they could happily put these engines in here. It won't be as cheap as the Amaze and Dzire, but it could rattle up the Verito, Sail, Etios and Manza side of the market.
  11. It's still a concept car. How do you know what its price will be or which cars it will rival? And even if you did know that, how can you possibly know that it won't be better than them? The previous NSX, while not the most powerful car, gained a reputation as a giant-slayer thanks to its neutral handling characteristics. The 'alternatives' you have listed fall across a wide range of prices (Evo X - Rs 50 lakh, Boxster - Rs 80 lakh, Noble M600 - Rs 4 crore, Carrera GT - Rs 14 crore!). Ferraris and Lamborghinis - all current production models - fit within this range as well. So where exactly does the NSX, which won't be produced for another two years, fit? If you're comparing performance, we don't know the outputs of the engine/electric motors yet, and although the handling has been proven in a front-engined Honda Accord, who knows how it will be in a mid-engined sports car. Are you saying this because it's a Honda? Remember, Nissan makes the GT-R ;-)
  12. EDIT: Sorry - just noticed that was two separate pictures with a break in the middle. My mistake.
  13. That way the new VW MQB platform will go across about eight segments. Think about it segment wise no? C-segment saloon, C-segment hatch. The same basic size of vehicle. Saying that a car is a saloon version of a hatch is not based on looks, it's based on platform, engine, components and parts sharing. And don't you think it's better when manufacturers make an effort to make their saloons look like saloons? Still, like I said, let's wait it out - and if you're right - and Honda makes a separate 'Jazz sedan' for America that is not the City or the Amaze, I will humbly declare that I was wrong, and that Honda are idiots. Also, the last City and Jazz are far from "identical looking" - only common feature I see are the door handles.
  14. Yes, the site is meant for the USA, but what I meant was that they often don't bother researching what cars are available in other markets before reporting. For instance, what I believe has happened here is - they've read a report that there will be a saloon, crossover (and mystery third model) based on the next Jazz. Then, not being aware of the existence of the Asia-Oceania-specific model we know as the City, this is news to them. Hence, they are reporting it as an all-new car, when in reality, it will just be the next City. And of course the Jazz doesn't look like the City. One is a hatchback and the other is a saloon. But it's still based on it. Same goes with the Punto and the Linea. Jetta and Golf. Sunny and Micra etc. They only look the same when it's a budget development like the Swift/Dzire or Indica/Indigo or Brio/Amaze. As you mentioned, yes, the City is an individual product - but only because Honda has the money to do that and thinks that the City is an important enough product to give it its own identity. The Brio Amaze, for example, is a budget car for budget markets, and so it doesn't make sense to spend lots to design a new body shell for such a car. Honda would be stupid to make two saloons on the Jazz platform when they can just make one. But if you are right, and they are making a separate model for the USA apart from the City, it would really mean they have no interest in saving on development costs. But then again, they have chosen to keep Acura alive in the US for so long, so obviously they don't mind making ridiculous decisions
  15. The City *is* the Jazz-based saloon. It has been for the last two generations. The current City is based on the current Jazz platform, and the saloon/crossover you're talking about are going to be based on the next one. Autoblog, with all due respect, never seems to have a clue about the Asian market, and all their stories tend to be very USA-centric; as people have pointed out in the comments of the story you are referring to. The crossover concept will be revealed at Detroit, and will use the same platform as the next City, Jazz and Freed (mini-MPV).
  16. Actually, the current Grand Cherokee uses the current, third-gen M-class platform (W166), not the second, and the Jeep was the debut car for the platform - before the M-class was released.
  17. I agree with bala. Given your usage, luggage and passenger requirements, there's no point in getting a saloon; instead get a good premium hatch. As for your commute - a 24km round trip means you should maybe consider diesel, but not necessarily. You'll have more fun driving the petrol and you'll save a lot on the buying price. So... Leave the Brio - the boot is too small; you can do better on your budget (unless you simply must have an automatic). Try the Jazz; it's easily the most practical car in the segment, it's great to drive and the mileage is pretty awesome for a petrol (although some people don't like the looks, so that's up to you). But Honda's AfSS, while very good, can get expensive after a while. And since you mentioned Hyundai and Maruti... There's the i20; lots of equipment (stick with petrol and it'll fit in your budget), but not very fun to drive at all. Which leaves the Swift. Which is amazing. But... not quite as complete as the Jazz. In conclusion, Swift for price, AfSS, looks and driving pleasure. Jazz for quality, space, practicality and FE.
  18. Get the 3-series. It's much more car for your money. It's good quality, rides and handles well, is well loaded with kit, fantastic engines and BMW has a pretty good service network. The Q3 is great, but at the end of the day, it's an entry-level car. The only reason it's so expensive is because it's not yet assembled here (you could wait till assembly starts and save a lot of money). It's nothing special to drive (especially compared to the 3-series), the seats aren't as spacious, and it doesn't feel as solid either. An if it's just the SUV presence you're after, it's worth noting that its profile is more "large hatchback on stilts" than full-on SUV. I would have recommended the XC60 too, but since there is no after-sales presence in your area, I understand you want to give it a miss. If you can get a Freelander 2 in your budget, take that hands down. I don't know if you will get it in your budged though - at least not with the full equipment list. However, they are bound to launch the facelifted version within the next six months, so you might get a good deal on the current model.
  19. If you don't venture out onto the highway, the Verna seems like the better bet for you. However, be mindful of the wallowy suspension at high speeds. It should be fine at city speeds though. Also, if you want lots of equipment in a diesel Verna, prepare to go beyond your Rs 10 lakh budget. I would normally recommend the Vento, but if you find the clutch heavy and gearshift notchy, it might not be best for your in-city driving requirements. Wild Card: Why not have a spin in the Fiesta. Since you plan to drive yourself, perhaps you will enjoy that a bit more.
  20. They were selling the Lancer all this while? Wow, I didn't even notice and I'm sure no one in the market for a diesel midsize saloon did either. The Pajero's departure is really sad news. While I don't usually like the idea of previous generation models lingering on in developing markets like ours (I feel like we're being fed table scraps and leftovers), the Pajero was a solid product. If they stripped it of all its frills and sold it at Rs 10-14 lakh, I'd probably buy one. Mitsubishi, like GM, seems to have no idea what our market is like, and personally I think they should just bow out quietly while they still have some brand dignity. That said, a friend of mine just bought a Montero, and he loves it.
  21. "To give ultimate driving pleasure the new Ritz has Automatic Transmission that fills you with joy. Be it the super-responsive DDiS engine or the VVT-powered K-series engine...." <-- this is going to confuse a lot of buyers into thinking you can get the auto gearbox with the diesel engine. Badvertising, Maruti, badvertising.
  22. Hmmm. Isuzu. General Motors. Does that mean this will come here instead of the beautiful Chevrolet Trailblazer? If so, I've lost whatever respect I had left for GM and Chevy in India. First the Sail, now this? Here's the Trailblazer, for comparison: Unless, of course, this is a sub-Trailblazer SUV to take on the Force One and the Safari. Then it's great!
  23. I think carmakers have learnt their lesson from the Ford Fusion and the Chevy SRV. The Indian customer still (sadly) associates 'hatchback' with 'entry level'. That really shouldn't be the case. If you look at it another way, what you get is all the equipment, luxury and trim from a segment above (D-segment) at the price of a segment below (C-segment). How can you say no to that? Solution? Premium carmakers. The only people that can convince Indians to pay big money for a hatchback are Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc. And it's already begun - just look at the B-class. Eventually the A-class will come here, probably the Audi A3, BMW 1-series and Volvo V40. Once these cars are established here, assuming they sell well, then and only then can the mainstream manufacturers follow suit. I've driven the latest Ford Focus hatchback, and I'd gladly pay Rs 12-13 lakh for it. It's that good.
  24. GM needs to do with SAIC what they did with Daewoo - use their technical expertise only, and not their design. I'm talking about the modern cars here - the Cruze, Beat (I think), Captiva. This way, Chevy can dictate the styling and quality control, but yet the cars can be built to a budget. With the Sail, GM has just picked up a car from the Chinese market and rebadged it. That is lazy. The Chinese market is not like the Indian market. We like good-looking, high-quality cars, and these days we won't accept a mediocre product simply because it's slightly cheaper. Not when we can have Swifts, Polos, Brios, i20s and Fabias. The Korean-developed cars I've mentioned above are sold in just about every market worldwide, and I don't think GM would dare sell the Sail in the US or Europe. The Sail's biggest problem in India is the Beat. It's a much better car, even if it is slightly smaller. I would rather have that. I wish GM would recognise the value and importance of the Indian market. Its bigger share in SAIC hopefully means that they will pour some more money into developing better products down the line, rather than leaving us with Sails.