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Facing problems when shifting the gears of 180DTSi

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Hi there,

             I purchased a Pulsar 180 DTS-i on 13 February 2007. The bike is equipped with Digital meters (Speedo, Odo and Trip). Currently the Odometer shows 4280kms. I am facing problems while shifting the gears. The gears dont engage smoothly. While shifting gears (both upshifting and downshifting) the gearbox makes noise as if I am shifting the gears without depressing the clutch. Infact I shift the gears depressing the clutch fully. I changed the Engine Oil myself at 500kms (Used MAK 4T Plus), 2000kms (Used MAK 4T Plus) and 4000kms (Used Castrol Power1). I adjusted the clutch and chain but in vain. I showed to the dealer but after talking to him, I realized that he doesnt even possess as much knowledge as I (he doesnt know that, since Pulsar180 is launched, it possess 1-down 4-up gear-shift pattern. He said that old 180s suffered from shifting noise thanks to all-down shift pattern. I corrected him, 180 always had 1-down 4-up pattern.

 Can anyone please tell me whats wrong with my Pulsar?

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 Can anyone please tell me whats wrong with my Pulsar?

 

Nothing is wrong with your pulsar, its a common problem with most 150/180s!

Its only the newer 220/200s that have a much better gearbox.

 

Anyways, try some clutch play adjustment! It might help more than you can think...And switch from MAK to Motul 300v Factory Line 15W50 Fully Synth!!!

 

This is a fully synthetic oil...and it should smoothen things up a little....Dont worry about the high cost of the oil....its gonna last you really really long...atleast a 6K Kms drain period!

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Hi there,

             I POSTED FOLLOWING QUERY LAST WEEK.

           

               I purchased a Pulsar 180 DTS-i on 13 February 2007. The bike is equipped with Digital meters (Speedo, Odo and Trip). Currently the Odometer shows 4280kms. I am facing problems while shifting the gears. The gears dont engage smoothly. While shifting gears (both upshifting and downshifting) the gearbox makes noise as if I am shifting the gears without depressing the clutch. Infact I shift the gears depressing the clutch fully. I changed the Engine Oil myself at 500kms (Used MAK 4T Plus), 2000kms (Used MAK 4T Plus) and 4000kms (Used Castrol Power1). I adjusted the clutch and chain but in vain. I showed to the dealer but after talking to him, I realized that he doesnt even possess as much knowledge as I (he doesnt know that, since Pulsar180 is launched, it possess 1-down 4-up gear-shift pattern. He said that old 180s suffered from shifting noise thanks to all-down shift pattern. I corrected him, 180 always had 1-down 4-up pattern.

 Can anyone please tell me whats wrong with my Pulsar?

 

NOW THIS IS NEWLY ADDED PART=>

I have tried everything(i.e., clutch adjust, chain slack adjust,etc.) but still the Pulsar suffers from poor gear shifting.

 I even took test ride of the Pulsar 180 at the dealer. It doesnt suffer from poor gearshifting. When I asked the service head at the service workshop about this, he said the company (BAL) used different parts in the bike which I test rode. I asked him "I test rode the model similar to which I purchased (Digital Speedo,etc.) at the showroom, THAT MODEL AND MY PULSAR ARE MANUFACTURED BY THE SAME COMPANY, USING SAME PROCEDURE, ON THE SAME MACHINES, AT THE SAME PLANT, then why only My Pulsar suffers from poor gearshift?" He was unable to answer to this question.

 

 

CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT?

SHOULD I ASK FOR JUSTICE IN THE CUSTOMER COURT?

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You cant ask for justice at consumer court, BAL did not promise you that the bike will not have gear slippage issues!Its a problem with BAL QC, which is not consistent! Some batches are flawless and others have a host of problems, thank your lucky stars that you are just facing gear slippage issues!

 

BTW which engine oil are you using? I hope not Castrol GTX or something like that. Do try and move over to the oil Motul for which I have posted the link earliers!!!

 

And as FRG mentioned, if you can push for a gbx replacement...then well and good....you might or might not have a problem solution at your hand...as it is quite possible that the replacing gbx might also have niggling issues....

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You cant ask for justice at consumer court' date=' BAL did not promise you that the bike will not have gear slippage issues!Its a problem with BAL QC, which is not consistent! Some batches are flawless and others have a host of problems, thank your lucky stars that you are just facing gear slippage issues!

 

BTW which engine oil are you using? I hope not Castrol GTX or something like that. Do try and move over to the oil Motul for which I have posted the link earliers!!!

 

And as FRG mentioned, if you can push for a gbx replacement...then well and good....you might or might not have a problem solution at your hand...as it is quite possible that the replacing gbx might also have niggling issues....
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Hi there again,

               Can anyone please tell me how much slackness should be kept for Bajaj Pulsar 180DTSi (LCD Speedo) and how to measure it(Should it be measured just by moving the chain up and down and measuring that distance)?

 How to find out the air-fuel ratio is correctly set or not?

How much turns should the air-fuel ratio screw be turned anticlockwise after fully tightening the screw for proper combustion (i.e how to set the air-fuel ratio of 14:1)?

Please answer soon.

Bye.

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i think becoz of ur confusion you used to switch to second gear directly before you met the mechanic so the problem there.i think the problem is in gear box, so you change the gear box otherwise it may damage other componentssmiley18.gif . byee..... if you did it ignore my message

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Hi Sainaresh,

   Can you please explain your POST in simple English as I am not able to understand your sentences as they lack the proper grammar.

"i think becoz of ur confusion you used to switch to second gear directly before you met the mechanic so the problem there.i think the problem is in gear box, so you change the gear box otherwise it may damage other componentssmiley18.gif . byee..... if you did it ignore my message".

Thanks.

Bye.

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Sudeep chill out i am sure Sainaresh will improve on it .You could have clicked quote next to the message to highlight it if you wrote it by your self.Nothing personal.

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Hi there,

   One of my friends owns a Discover 125 DTSi (with wire spoke wheels and Exhaustec) purchased in Feb 2005. It has done 13280kms. In the idle speed, some strange noise comes from the engine. But  I  am sure that noise comes from the engine and not from the silencer. The pickup and average has reduced drastically. The average is about 59kmpl. The oil level doesnt drop. He uses Castrol Power1. He showed to the local mechanic. That mechanic said that the Timing Chain and the Rollers have to be replaced. I know that noise cannot be expressed in words. But I will try. The noise is somewhat like this "kir-kir-kir-kir-kir-kir".

 Is it necessary to replace the timing chain and rollers?

Please Suggest suitable remedies.

Thanks.

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Hi there again,

   I posted the Following On 2nd Oct2007 at 5:23pm but still not got the reply for the same.

               "Can anyone please tell me how much slackness should be kept for Bajaj Pulsar 180DTSi (LCD Speedo) and how to measure it(Should it be measured just by moving the chain up and down and measuring that distance)?

 How to find out the air-fuel ratio is correctly set or not?

How much turns should the air-fuel ratio screw be turned anticlockwise after fully tightening the screw for proper combustion (i.e how to set the air-fuel ratio of 14:1)?

Please answer soon.

Bye."

Please reply.

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