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If crash testing is made mandatory then the only car's in the Maruti lineup would be, Swift, SX4, Vitara. All other's would fall by the way side. In fact they should say all car's that failed must come off the roads, too!!! Then probably I'll open a junkyard for all the Maruti's that will pile up!! The roads would be empty and then driving will again become a pleasure.

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i think many cars of other companies as well wont survive it for example- hyundai santro-its a really thin sheet car,chevrolet spark and  aveo,aveo uva and the list can go on....ms cars doesnt have good build quality even i accept but the reputation it has acquired over the years is due to its reliability and problem free cars.....take any car from maruti's stable and a car from skoda's stable and tata's stable for a countrywide run and i am sure the car which will emerge as problem free will be maruti suzuki's and everyone will agree with me on this !!!

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Hyundai Santro is a safe car & so is Spark, Aveo initially fared badly in safety , but later GM carried out some changes, which made it pass.

Santro is called atoz abroad: 3stars out of 5:

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18 month old Child Roemer King, forward facing
3 year old Child Roemer King, forward facing

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Hand of drive LHD
Tested model Hyundai Atoz GLS
Body type 5-door hatchback
Year of publication 2000
Kerb weight 865
VIN from which rating applies KMHAC51GPYU224665


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every one here iscomplaining abt DZire........then why people....are waiting so long.....to....buy it..........maruthi didnt market DZire......in a strong manner.......buts.....see the sales chart......april to july sales....15600 DZires on road.......

ppl kno that its a good VFM car which .....is why after  long waiting periods .....also ppl..are not bothered....

in this forum.....how many have booked .....DZIRE..........???

some of them have even bought it.then also complaining.....abt long waiting periods...........

good VFM cars will always......sell better than any other cars.........

every body knos that DZIRE is made only in india......for india...>>>>>>>>

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Dont u think we are going anti maruti , its just that MAruti service is not so good. Many maruti buyers are first times and they dont expect much of service, by the time they become mature to ask for proper service they switch to new car of some other brands and they suffer. Pity on others, Hyundai is doing great as they r a bit ahead of MS in service and cars r priced well in range of MS.

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If crash testing is made mandatory then the only car's in the Maruti lineup would be' date=' Swift, SX4, Vitara. All other's would fall by the way side. In fact they should say all car's that failed must come off the roads, too!!! Then probably I'll open a junkyard for all the Maruti's that will pile up!! The roads would be empty and then driving will again become a pleasure.[/quote']

 

Do you know that for sure, is their anything to back up what you say or have you plucked that statement out of thin air?

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i think many cars of other companies as well wont survive it for example- hyundai santro-its a really thin sheet car' date='chevrolet spark and  aveo,aveo uva and the list can go on....ms cars doesnt have good build quality even i accept but the reputation it has acquired over the years is due to its reliability and problem free cars.....take any car from maruti's stable and a car from skoda's stable and tata's stable for a countrywide run and i am sure the car which will emerge as problem free will be maruti suzuki's and everyone will agree with me on this !!!


[/quote'] If santro is thin metal sheet than wagon r is without any body structure or what dude...If according to you saprk/uva/santro are not safe cars then u should not praise maruti at First place..First decide wat u wanna say man...Ms was at time with no competition and thus it gained goodwill and not by quality or reliablity...Ok maruti is low on maintenance but it needs maintenance like other cars only(talking about time intervals)..its low on maintenance coz its cheap on spare parts and its cheap coz it uses cheap quality spare parts..Skoda even being a budget brand gives world class build quality with the likes of other big germans and thus their spare prices are high..Santro gives standard quality and thus its spare parts are neither cheap nor expensive...Even santro and all are problem free cars man..Actually good cheap products are normally problem free coz they dont uses high tech. parts in it ..A very good example i can give..Nokia is class company right and it has or had 1100 for india and was good but cheap piece..It was reliable and rough and tough and was long termer but was for people who cant afford anything else..and say n70/6600/n82,etc are normal piece and if they fall once they will cost u much more obviously but the PLEASURE they give u are not given by 1100's...similarly 9500 communicator if it falls man will cost you a bomb..i remember once it was damaged by my cousin and costed me 8000 in which u can get a normal mobile..its obvious..but if u dont own that u need not to worry about coz the one who will own can maintain that easily...  So pleasure u get in Santro u will not get in wagonR though both are from same segment..as a 1st car its best as it can feel u pride about its quality..What maruti did in 25 years..before swift/sx4/vitara(which are also not upto mark) what they produced was almost same product with different engines..wagonR/800/esteem/baleno/gypsy/alto/vitara,etc all have same thin metal structure(not different at all) and tacky interiors and same that worst GEAR SHIFT(it was most shocking thing for me)....Though MS is good in service but that too took long time compared to Tata/Hyundai...Hyundai within so short period has 2nd largest service network and tata too...though Tata has not that good service..And frankly speaking after all free serviecs very few people give their cars to service centre coz whether its maruti/hyundai they cost more than local good service centres and with satisfaction...Atleast i dont give my cars to companies after free services coz they are well known in replacing spares..In selling cars no body can make money man the only source of income for these dealers is service and finance and thus we can understand that how they are looting us in service.....

But as u said that Santro is thin metal car then i can understand your blind love for maruti and Give up..now after saying ur this statement i cant tell u anything more...

And buddy this was just my thinking and some are facts also..No personal Offence made..If i hurted you then i apologize for that..But still i stand by my Statement and from very beginning i am saying and thinking this about MS and the thinking will never change..

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If crash testing is made mandatory then the only car's in the Maruti lineup would be' date=' Swift, SX4, Vitara. All other's would fall by the way side. In fact they should say all car's that failed must come off the roads, too!!! Then probably I'll open a junkyard for all the Maruti's that will pile up!! The roads would be empty and then driving will again become a pleasure.[/quote'] good one DD...this is TRUE...

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so there we have it from the info speed has given...on santro it clearly states that front end doesnt stand the impact and the driver will get serious injuries the only saving grace being the side impact test....u have to be kidding blue sapphire cause you tell me the masses have bought cars from  maruti suzuki and you tell me their cars have only vices and no virtues...all the cars in hyundai's stable are over-priced with the exception of santro and i10....u cant discredit the largest seller in india due to your own whims and fancies...i really dont regret that in 2001 i bought the zen rather than the old santro....

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i dont know what blue sapphire is saying....he says maruti has cheap spares and they are not upto quality....the question i would like to ask is his conclusions based on ownership expieriences ???? maruti is a small car specialist and it was unanimously decided in the other thread(on small skoda car) that a small car should have really cheap spares and should be quiet reliable with good fuel efficience and maruti passes all the parameters in flying colours !!!

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And i consider my self happy that in 99 we bought santro rather than craps(ms)...dude ok atleast santro has got normal rating..tell me the crash tests for Zen and wagonR...I think results posted by speed were of Euro Ncap and they have very stringent safety norms...And i still say what all sells by maruti are because of prices and old notions dude...they arent good products...although our market dynamics are different but what sells in abroad are usually good products so atleast product wise we should consider their choices man...i am not talking about sales but about product quality...

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i dont know what blue sapphire is saying....he says maruti has cheap spares and they are not upto quality....the question i would like to ask is his conclusions based on ownership expieriences ???? maruti is a small car specialist and it was unanimously decided in the other thread(on small skoda car) that a small car should have really cheap spares and should be quiet reliable with good fuel efficience and maruti passes all the parameters in flying colours !!!
should have cheap spares but still quality should be there man...maruti have no quality...

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even i have admitted that the build quality of ms isnt good but still the car sells because their cars are value for money...see the swift its sales have been overwhelming to say the least...2,00,000 swifts sold in 3 years....i dont know on what parameters are you evaluating quality ???  currently there;s not even a single car in their lineup which is not value for money....consider it a co-inc idence or difference in our opinions we have exactly different choices in terms of cars !!!

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actually i dont choose on typical indian style...i dont want complete VFM..maruti is more of Vfm then of good product..but not even Vfm i think coz around 3 years WagonR was expensive than Santro and Santro is much better car but then also it was sold...sales in india are not only parameters...for me atleast..ya Swift/Dzire are Vfm but Zen/wagonr/esteem are not Vfm..Quality also matters yaar little bit low is ok but Ms was too low ...i consider overall product and when whole world accepted getz as good car then i think its really good car ..Swift is sold max only in india so i cant consider it as good car...Suzukis car are only sold in india at maximum and thats why Suzuki from past few years are interested more in India but still no quality...i saw Swift in Dubai and was much better in terms of quality so it means that Maruti does no follows that standard while all other companies have same quality as in other parts of world...

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the wagonr's engine is superior to santro because-1.wagonr engine is 16 valves while santro's till date is 12 valves 2. wagonr has a full aluminium engine while santro's till date is semi aluminium block..its an accepted fact that swift is a has better engine than getz and getz cant match its performance(nt diesel)...so for me it is maruti suzuki while for you its hyundai !!

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Not Hyundai but other than MS...only engine is not the thing..car should be good overall..in a Hatch if u dont get enough space then whats the use..and the main thing is MS has made it big but not interiors wise only in size so whats use of big body when it cant deliver in both space and strength...for a 5lac plus car space should be there.. ..inshort its not as Practical...and again wagon R is not VFm...bluesapphire2008-09-20 07:37:28

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engine is one of the main things in the car and because of the engine only fabia which is a very good car has been dismissed outrightly....swift is vfm proposition when compared to getz because the cheapest getz is a 1.1 which is sluggish while on all the 3 variants of swift u get the powerful engine while the diesel of getz is too pricey for a car which is lacking in bells and whistles !!!!

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so there we have it from the info speed has given...on santro it clearly states that front end doesnt stand the impact and the driver will get serious injuries the only saving grace being the side impact test....

I fear you've taken it out of context, a  3 stars rating implies Santro is an adequately safe car. Though, in modern times ie. post 01, superminis have graduated to 4 stars. Getz, which is a newer Hyundai has 4stars & so does Swift.

But older Suzukis, namely Wagon-r, Esteem, Zen, etc. have no mention of crash test rating.

Chill out guys!!

speed2008-09-20 09:12:57

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If crash testing is made mandatory then the only car's in the Maruti lineup would be' date=' Swift, SX4, Vitara. All other's would fall by the way side. In fact they should say all car's that failed must come off the roads, too!!! Then probably I'll open a junkyard for all the Maruti's that will pile up!! The roads would be empty and then driving will again become a pleasure.[/quote']

 

Do you know that for sure, is their anything to back up what you say or have you plucked that statement out of thin air?

 

I have started my post with an 'if'. All these anti-people measures are not possible in India. Even our FM<P.Chidambaram> moves around in an 'Esteem'.

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well i think our fin min is really a big miser with his personal finances because with declared assets in general elections of close to 25 crore,he should be roaming about in atleast a bmw 5 series/merc e class/audi a6 not in an esteem !!!!

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Guess what guys!! It seems someone from Maruti must be following this forum. I just got a call saying my car will be delivered in 7 - 10 days. Just 10 days ago the dealer had told me it will take another month. Nothing works like bad publicity i  guess!!

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