vikas jindal Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I bought a New Ford Endeavour and very much dissatisfied by its performance. The Differential of vehicle has a humming sound when the accelerator pedal is released in excess of 100kmph. The vehicle is very bumpy even on smooth roads. Ford says Good Road, Bad Road Any road No Road I say the vehicle is not good for any road. The car spits on it - when any of front wheel goes in water filled pothole the water comes on windscreen affecting drivers visibility. These are my observations and Ford is not agreeing to it. I would like to know If any body else has experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonFre Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 You are right about the ride, its pretty bad & rear suspension set up with leaf springs is the main culprit. The SUV just doesn't feel like a 15L+ category car from ride point of view. Well can't say much about the humming noise & water splashing because used friends Endy. for short period of time only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas jindal Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks Bornfree. I too suggested ford that it should be priced in 10L category. The Vehicle does not worth what it costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonFre Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 You are welcome Vikas, though they are never going to bring it to 10L category, but 12L would be fine. I would ask my friend when we meet about other negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudeepd Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 The Differential of vehicle has a humming sound when the accelerator pedal is released in excess of 100kmph. The vehicle is very bumpy even on smooth roads.The car spits on it - when any of front wheel goes in water filled pothole the water comes on windscreen affecting drivers visibility. Hi Vikas, I feel very Sorry for your Grievances. If you are Autocar India Subscriber, you can ask FRG (Manish) for help. He can help you getting the problems solved (by contacting Ford India). Sudeep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas jindal Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Thanks Sudeep, for taking concern. When I complained to Ford India their RSM at Delhi Mr. Navneet very proudly quoted that if our vehicle is not upto mark why Auto Magzines are quoting it positively. Therefore I want Auto car to make a road test again and emphasisie on the points I have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuelRunGod Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Did you not test drive the vehicle before buying? All these things are pretty normal with the car and have been talked about time and again. FRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas jindal Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 C'mon Endeavour owners, come up with your experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehul_bhp Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 cant d shockers be loosened or soomething so that the ride becomes a bit more pliant ???? even i have heard that endy has a very bumpy ride !!! vikas you should take the help of aci and do something about it !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas jindal Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Thanks, what's aci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonFre Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 ACI-Autocarindia!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudeepd Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 what's aci ACI means Autocar India. That is you can take help of Autocar India if you are Subscriber of Autocar India. And you should have researched about Endy before buying it. Most of we all know that as any car having Leaf Springs will jump while going over bumpy roads. And as Endy as Leaf Springs at rear, it is going to jump over bupmy roads. So whats your decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuelRunGod Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 While auto magazines have praised it for the engine and its handling, we have also mentioned that the ride quality is harsh and nothing to write home about. You could try decreasing tyre pressures at the cost of slightly lower fuel economy. FRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehul_bhp Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 but really majority of the people buy a car without actually test driving it....cant the leaf springs in endy be replaced with the modern day shockers ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudeepd Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 but really majority of the people buy a car without actually test driving it I agree with you. cant the leaf springs in endy be replaced with the modern day shockers ??????? If this would have been so easy, Ford itself would have replaced the Leaf Springs With Modern Shock Absorbers. OT- Leaf Springs allow to carry more load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas jindal Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Ride is one major problem. The car has other problems too like very frequent wear of Brakes- They suggest brake pad change at every 20000 kms and brake disc change at every 30000kms. Engine and pickup of vehicle is good and Brakes are not responsive to take on the momentum generated by kind of heavy beast like endy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonFre Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Btw, how much do the brake pads cost? What other problems do you face with the vehicle? Also, shed some light on maintenance costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas jindal Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Brake pads costs around 3500 per set. The very first paid servive at 30000 costed around 6500 to me. Other problems I face are - Sitting is very low and rear seat can house only 2. The 3rd row is meant for children upto 10 years only or pets of course. Suspension besides being rough is too noisy on bumps. On rough road you have to drive very slow other wise its too bumpy and difficult to manover. The most horrible part of driving is in rains. As the front trye goes in any water filled pothole the car spits on itself, the water comes on windscreen making driver absolutely blind and you have to apply sudden brakes. The differncial has a nosie like it use to be there in Premier Padmini (Fiat), in new age car I have seen it in Endeavour only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durango Dude Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Basically, no other Endy owner has come out with their grouse's and gripe's like you Vikas. Probably, they are smiling and swallowing their grievances. From the look's of it, it doesn't sound like a 7 lakh car let alone a 20 lakh car. We expect far more from our Swift's and i20's; we'd definitely not put up with such problem's. We'd go to town with it, wouldn't we? Durango Dude2009-03-06 17:46:32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thackervijay Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 brake discs to be changed at 30000..thats going to be a costly maintanance buddy, werent there other options available for you while buying this car, as you must have thought before going for this as it was said and tested with it has a gem of engine but ride is not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octane_100 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 With all due respect, you have none but yourselves to blame! Who stopped you from having a test drive before buying it? It's a known character of the vehicle and not a defect per se. Hence it would be better if you can sell it off and buy something with a more pliant ride. Endeavour is based on a pick up truck and hence the leaf spring suspension. It's better if Ford replaces this with a better vehicle with proper coil springs, sooner the better since Fortuner is on its way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbond830 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 You are right about the ride' date=' its pretty bad & rear suspension set up with leaf springs is the main culprit. The SUV just doesn't feel like a 15L+ category car from ride point of view. Well can't say much about the humming noise & water splashing because used friends Endy. for short period of time only.[/quote']15L imported car is actually just 8 lakhs. So the car is just worth 8 lackhs money. For that case. You will find the Tata safari much better than the endeavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehul_bhp Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Brake pads costs around 3500 per set. The very first paid servive at 30000 costed around 6500 to me. Other problems I face are - Sitting is very low and rear seat can house only 2. The 3rd row is meant for children upto?10 years only or pets of course. Suspension besides being rough is too noisy on bumps. On rough road you have to drive very slow other wise its too bumpy and difficult to manover. The most horrible part of driving is in rains. As the front trye goes in any water filled pothole the car spits on itself' date=' the water comes on windscreen making driver absolutely blind and you have to apply sudden brakes. The differncial has a nosie like it use to be there in Premier Padmini (Fiat), in new age car I have seen it in Endeavour only.[/quote'] well the life of break pads is around 30,000 kms...in my corolla i got them changed when it had done 32,000 kms....seriously you should have test driven the vehicle before buying it...innova would have been a beeter buy than the endy !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuelRunGod Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Big SUVs are bound to have more brake wear than cars, so it isn't really fair to compare. Research is key to everything and especially when parting with a sizeable chunk of money. Although I am quite puzzled as to why the brake discs need changing at just 30,000kms. FRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonFre Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Brake pads aren't really costly, there are many cheaper cars whose brake pads costs almost double. 30000 Kms seems alright for such a huge vehicle, but the wear & tear depends upon driving styles too. 40000 kms. is normal for big cars, but drive them hard & even 25000 is expected! I have test driven Endy 3-4 times as I really wanted to go in for it once. Also read many reviews about it & from both the experiences I easily gathered that its ride quality is poor. So, I never made a purchase as I look for good ride quality in my car. But surely Endy's handling, street presence, go anywhere capability(4x4) are a big turn on too. @Bond, Endy is not imported, its being manufactured in India! & Safari comes no where near an Endy! BornFree2009-03-07 09:49:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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