lalitvohra 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2009 Good day to all, I have a i10 kappa magna.I somehow find that the headlights intensity low in both Dipped and beam conditions.So, i visited my car accessories shop...where i was given two options : OPTION 1 : Go for HID lights. (Cost Rs 8000) OPTION 2: Go in for Philips "RALLY RACE" bulbs (100 Watts) (Cost Rs 1200) Please enlighten on the following : 1) Which is better among the two above. 2) WIll my headlight reflectors get blackened with time as i use these higher intensity bulbs? 3) The rally race bulbs also require a new relay to be fitted : ---Is this safe? 4) Is there any impact on the car warranty...as my car is just 6 months old? I am told that the rally race bulbs have more intensity and give better viewing than HID...please comment!!!! Thanks all Lalit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winner48 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2009 I dont have any idea about the rally race bulbs. However, for the kind of money your dealer is asking for HID lamps, you can always get yourself xenons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudeepd 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Please don't fit 100W bulbs to existing Reflectors since the latter are designed for 60/55W Bulbs and will Blacken the Glass with time. In fact, Manufacturers do a lot of R&D in developing a vehicle. If they fit 60/55W bulbs, there must be some reason. We bought Indigo LS in May 2004. My Dad's STUPID friend advised my Dad to replace the Stock 60/55W with 100/90W Bulbs. Result- Blacken Glass and the Beam (100/90W) would not provide Better Road Illumination either. So last year, I changed both Headlight Assemblies with New Ones and fitted 60/55W Bulbs. HIGHER WATTAGE BULBS ARE FOR ANIMALS (Who have Poor Vision). Please use the Stock Bulbs. sudeepd2009-07-20 09:46:48 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lalitvohra 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2009 What is the difference between HID lights and Xenon lights? The quotaion of Rs 8000 was for philips HID (Intensity was 6000K).Further pls suggest on following : 1) Cost of HID Vs Cost of xenon 2) Which is better for i10. 3)Which gives better intensity / viewing? Regards Lalit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AshTheDash 2 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Hello All, After a long gap..and sicne I dont see any conclusion to this discussion here is my question.. Can you please advise what HID/Xenon Kit can I install in my i10. Pls suggest name of the kit. Does i10 have the facility to have halogens along with the Xenons? Do I need fog lamps once I get the HID installed? I also came across this link through carwale.com which talks about Bi-Xenons. "Earlier versions of Xenon lights could not be used for flashing while overtaking. HID lights they take time to get to full brightness. To eliminate this problem the newer bulbs come with integrated Halogens in the same HID bulbs. These can be flashed while overtaking. Hence the Name Bi-Xenons." Has installed these?? AshAshTheDash2009-11-18 01:59:10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgiitk 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Please search in the forum. There are threads where tht HID was discussed. Let me point out the law - You can have HID in low beam but not in full beam. Proceed from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AshTheDash 2 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Please search in the forum. There are threads where tht HID was discussed. Sir, I did the search, but i dont see any conclusive end and more over I don't see anyone with the details of what to buy for the i10, hence this question. Please do suggest. what type and brand to go for the i10. Ash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgiitk 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Not every thing has a clear cut answer. About a year ago I looked into the matter and decided against an HID conversion for wither of my cars, unless you get proper projectors from somewhere (the cost will then be ~25-35k). I do not like the contraption they use to move the HID element up and down for full/dip beam. The option is a bi-xenon where you have a second or so of low intensity while the filament comes to full performance. This happens every time you switch beams. One option worth considering is to put HID in the fog lamps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5u3zEr0 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 @ Ashthedash: What is the OE headlamp spec of the i10? Is it H4? I have HID's in my Civic for both high and low beam and I flash the lamps for overtaking and they work fine. They do take a few seconds to come to their full brightness but just for flashing the initial brightness works fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AshTheDash 2 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 5u3zEr0: Yes its H4. I was advised the foll: Highway Driving: 4300 K (OEM yellow light) 35W is good and 55 W will give 20% more light. For more City Driving: 6000K (White Light) also has 35W and 55W. 35W- 10,000 with fitting in Mumbai and 1 Yr warranty (Delhi price is 8,500) 55W 13,500 with fitting in Mumbai and 1 Yr warranty I am keen for a 4300K as I prefer the yellow tinge light and need the longer throw that this has over the 6000K. Bu tI need a 55W light.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CYRUS43 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Most Modern cars have an H4 standard setting. Apart from the Plaio, Which I believe is Different. Also, The i10 has a single bulb and a single reflector. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5u3zEr0 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2009 @ Ashthedash: You do get HID's in H4 (both low and high beam in a single bulb) in Philips. Somebody I know has it in his Octavia, which comes with a H4 bulb as stock. EDIT : 35W HID's suffice in my Civic, they get really bright. If the price difference is not much then you can go in for 55W otherwise I think 35W is enough. 5u3zEr02009-11-19 07:33:33 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creativebala 178 Report post Posted November 19, 2009 By using Philips Xtreme Power or Osram Night breaker (no xtra wiring), you can get get good night vision and also you can retain your warranty. Costs around 1000 bucks only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alok Mathur 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 By using Philips Xtreme Power or Osram Night breaker (no xtra wiring)' date=' you can get get good night vision and also you can retain your warranty. Costs around 1000 bucks only.[/quote']Please mention the wattage of these bulbs otherwise one may face below mentioned problem. Please don't fit 100W bulbs to existing Reflectors since the latter are designed for 60/55W Bulbs and will Blacken the Glass with time. We bought Indigo LS in May 2004. My Dad's STUPID friend advised my Dad to replace the Stock 60/55W with 100/90W Bulbs. Result- Blacken Glass and the Beam (100/90W) would not provide Better Road Illumination either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sb-alto 21 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 In this context i would like to know has anyone used osram silverstar or night breaker ?? I have an alto(old) without clear lens headlamps, so will fitting these bulbs help to get more light ??? They claim 50% and 80% more light respectively i want a 60/55w nightbreaker or xtremepower only, because i dont want to take the risk of ruining my reflector using higher wattage bulbs. So, will the 60/55 nightbreaker or xtremepower provide more illumination than my stock 60/55w lamps. First i thought of adding a 100/90w lamp with relay and ceramic holders but i heard that 100/90 can damage the reflectors(not clear lens). I just want more light in both high and low beams and no show off. I dont mind bluish light if and only if the light is really more than my 60/55 h4 from halonix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sb-alto 21 Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Well any help guys ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praji.ooo 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 xenon is the best Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CYRUS43 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Well, though the legalities are debatable, Your best option would be a 100/90W Setup. If you have a lot of city driving and not much Highway driving, then xenons are a better bet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sb-alto 21 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 I am finally going in for the 100/90 setup (philips rally) with a relay kit from MICO and ceramic holders. I thought of going for the xenons once but the shop owner said that it will be ineffective with non clear lens type head lamps. Will also get the lamps focused properly once installed. Thanks all for your help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites