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Toyota Etios: 1st Dec. launch

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One thing that really irked me is the door handle.

It's not something that a TOYOTA should offer.

If you go by such aspects i think it not a modern car.

And price???

I think it will not be priced on par with Swift/Dezire but will be a grand 80k-1L above.

But will still find buyers because of the badge it carries.shanthanreddyp2010-10-17 12:45:39

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Toyota has announced that their much awaited Etios sedan is all set for a launch on the 1st of December 2010. The Etios hatchback will follow suit after two-three months of the Etios sedan

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Excerpts about Etios:

First petrol sedan, then Hatch back. Diesel later.

With the launch of the much-hyped India-specific model Etios just weeks away, these are tense moments for the Japanese car giant Toyota Motor Corporation.

"The success of the Etios is very critical for Toyota

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well after launching their small diesel engine for its Corolla, i dont think they would launch a more powerful engine for upcoming Etios and its hatchback version.Any news of what kind of diesel engine toyota would launch for this models?

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The 1.4D on Corolla can be utilized on Etios too. They may detune it to deliver SUPERB mileage.

That seems to be a viable option. No need of another power train as this can be tuned to deliver around 70-75 BHP and is sufficient enough to pull this vehicle. This should also return a good FE.

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Toyota Etios Twins testing caught again:

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...The Etios twins testing with taped badges. Both the cars are being driven, perhaps for last-minute adjustments.

The silver hatch looks more appealing than the concept car showcased through the year at various Q World events while the white sedan is so very reminiscent of the Mahindra Logan and suffers a lackluster appeal.

The subdued styling and measly use of curves on the sedan is intentional as Toyota wants to price this car aggressively...(IAB.com)

From these above pics I can safely conclude that:

-Body Fit & finish is Excellent.

-Interior Quality is great.

-Feature list will also be good.

-Interiors same as shown at Auto Expo, with Central Instrument Cluster & Vertical Central AC vents.

-Boot Space is also Good.

 

@mods: Can't resist myself from posting this pics here with Watermark, so posted this. Rest its upon you sir..

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No matter how well it is priced of how capable it is, I dont think I can get past that awful grill and headlamps to ever get into that car. Watch out Micra. Your title as the wierdest looking car is at stake here.

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[quote=shanthanreddyp.

There are no chances of the diesel variant in 2011 on both the forms.

The hatchback model will be launched three-months after the launch of the sedan model.

 

Toyota will never learn , actually they could have asked their price for Diesel as they have done with Fortuner .

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Watch out Micra. Your title as the wierdest looking car is at stake here.

And the Price of the Diesel variant....

It costs A WHOOPING 6+ LAKHS for a small car !!! smiley3.gif

What ever technology it might have, too much to ask for, isn't it? smiley21.gifshanthanreddyp2010-11-16 12:37:11

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Speculated specifications of Toyota Etios Sedan:

ETIOS Sedan technical specifications -

Length: 4265mm
Width: 1695mm
Height: 1510mm
Wheelbase: 2550mm
Ground clearance: 170mm
Weight: 930Kg
Turning radius: 4.9m
Fuel tank capacity: 45 liters
Boot capacity: 595 Liters
Engine: (Petrol)
Capacity : 1.5-liter, 4 cylinder inline, 16 valve DOHC
Max output: 90 PS
Max torque: 132 Nm/3000rpm
Mileage: 17.6kmpl (Automotive Research Association Of India certified)

IAB

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The above speculated specifications makes me think: Why not bring back the Esteem with the K series 1.2 it would weigh around the same as the Etios. I think it's "back to the past" its a Toyota branded Esteem. Now you have the reason why Hyundai hasn't dumped the old Accent: add a couple of airbags, ABS/EBD, a new set of head and tail lamps and you are ready to rock for another 5-7 years. 

Durango Dude2010-11-21 03:27:55

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Speculated specifications of Toyota Etios Sedan:

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ETIOS Sedan technical specifications -

Weight: 930KgEngine: (Petrol)Capacity : 1.5-liter' date=' 4 cylinder inline, 16 valve DOHCMax output: 90 PSMax torque: 132 Nm/3000rpmMileage: 17.6kmpl (Automotive Research Association Of India certified)

IAB
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930 kgs only. It is less than all the premium hatches. If it is sol light why is the mileage only around 17?

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The above speculated specifications makes me think: Why not bring back the Esteem with the K series 1.2 it would weigh around the same as the Etios.I think it's "back to the past" its a Toyota branded Esteem. ?

I completely agree with Durango Dude.

A little more sturdy and it's done.

Now manufacturers are surely thinking Indian consumers are willing to buy garbage if provided with fuel efficiency and if cheaply priced. Logan, Accent, Indigo CS are few examples and they are selling !!!

Even the Peugeot 309 would have sold well in India if introduced even now if prices around 4-4.5L with FE of around 17-18 kmpl.

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There is literally NO good looking entry level sedan in this country. You have premium hatch at entry sedan price, so who cares about looks, go for this. There is no one to blame since people buy horrible looking sedans( entry level).

 

Micra sedan is going to be the only good looker in its segment, again I know, looks are subjective.

 

PS- Why don't Honda brings OHC with 1.2Vtec in entry sedan segment?
creativebala2010-11-21 08:11:25

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Toyota Etios: Road Test

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A quite revolution of a very pleasing sort will hit

Indian roads on December 1 in the form of the Toyota Etios, the first

mass market sedan from the Japanese numero uno. Impressive in its build

and make-up, Adil Jal Darukhanawala was at the wheel as we put it to the

test on our varied terrain to see whether it stacked up well in dynamic

ability as well as in the overall drive experience.

The Japanese are circumspect in most things, not to

mention the term fastidious and it shows in their approach to

automobiles in India. Toyota is renowned for not letting much out of the

bag, infuriatingly so but the unflappable Japanese giant dismisses this

with a smile hiding the steely resolve underneath it all. Many a time

this has been masked under the "we take the step-by-step approach" and

while it might sound a bit presumptuous trust me when I say it is

anything but that for this is how Toyota plays the game.

The new Etios is a step the Japanese car maker should

have taken at least three to four years ago but many a circumstance

delayed it and that allowed many a carmaker, local and multi-national to

establish their small car credentials and garner the spotlight. The

time taken was not to delay but to rethink the very manner in which

Toyota goes about conjuring up a new model series from concept to design

to engineering and on to manufacture and marketing. Toyota needed to

think out of the box, especially in terms of trying to meet aspirations

of a new vibrant segment of Indian society wanting to acquire a car in

keeping with their worldly wise aspirations.

This thought process of trying to undo certain Toyota

tenets without compromising build integrity and minimum performance

standards took some effort but it began to show in stark contrast to

previous Toyota new model launches. Toyota took the wraps off the Etios

concept almost a year ahead of series production ? at the 2010 Auto Expo

in Delhi this January. It wasn't a mock-up or such but two fully

engineered prototypes of the sedan and hatchback were the highlights of

the show. What wasn't so very well taken in was that their make-up and

build were the result of thousands of hours of diligent customer

research. If that wasn't all, Toyota's product planners and engineers

brainstormed with customers at specially organized clinics where the

company benchmarked many a rival car, both within the segment and also

those which straddled it, to come up with a product that we managed to

drive for the first time at the Toyota-owned Fuji Speedway in Japan in

late October this year.

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Not much seems to have changed on the exteriors since the unveiling at

Auto Expo but now we have most of the details of what is truly the

biggest challenge for Toyota ever, not just in India but also as a

template for other demanding markets of a similar order elsewhere in the

world. The basic floorpan was tooled to be flexible enough to do duty

not just as a hatchback and a sedan but could also be employed to make a

panel van or an MPV or also a mini-soft-roader. Both the sedan and the

hatchback will see the light of day on December 1 when none other than

Akio Toyoda, president and CEO, Toyota Motor Corporation, gives the

symbolic green light to commence roll-out from the new manufacturing

facility. This new unit has been set up at Bidadi itself and will have

an installed capacity to build 70,000 units per annum. Of course

production ramp up will be in stages and that is the reason why Toyota

will first begin selling the Etios saloon with the hatchback following

suit around February-March 2011.

The Etios sedan is a pure and simple no-nonsense offering and it

doesn't heighten peoples' expectations as much as it reinforces the

belief in a product that will be right, in consumers' minds. What to

many looked more like a Logan-proportioned and styled outfit remains the

same but overall the fit and finish is top class. Much work has gone

into making the monocoque as light as possible without sacrificing

structural integrity and knowing how weight is the bugbear of fuel

efficiency, performance and emissions, Toyota's engineers have got this

aspect sussed just right.

Mechanicals: Spot on!

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The Etios sedan tips the scales, depending on the trim and

equipment levels specified anywhere between 900kg at the base end to

930kg for the top line offering. This has to rank as one of the lightest

cars there is in the country but also one of the most sprightly to

drive. The 1496cc dohc, 16-valve four-cylinder engine is all new as is

the smaller 1.2-litre mill, both engines sharing virtually the same head

gear. The Toyota engineers rewrote the book on the ancillaries for this

engine wherein they have cut off the over-engineered approach in terms

of extreme operating ability and kept costs and sophistication down to

normal Indian conditions. A case in point is the operational range of

the alternators. Where Toyota normally engineers them to operate from

temperatures as low as minus 20 degrees centigrade, in the Etios these

would operate from about minus five degrees centigrade. Much effort went

into unshackling their rigid standards but without compromising on the

reliability, overall performance or the quality thereof.

The 1.5-litre engine (an all

new unit designated 2NR-FE) isn't one to burn rubber but 90PS of power

at 5600rpm is more than enough to endow the sedan with enough thrust.

The 132Nm of torque though is ample enough to move a full complement of

five plus luggage in absolute splendor without in anyway cutting down on

the fuel efficiency. This engine is an absolute beauty, and not just

because of its long stroke under-square cylinder dimensions (bore and

stroke measuring 72.5mm x 90.6mm) but the fact that it runs unstressed

over its entire operating range and secondly the five-speed transmission

is also a completely new unit with perfectly matched ratios for our

operating environment. The five ratios in conjunction with the final

drive employed makes for seamless drive across the torque curve enabling

not just rapid motoring but also effortless high speed cruising which

in turn reflects positively on the fuel efficiency.

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In fact, the Toyota boffins were quietly confident at the low fuel

consumption levels the car will sport and given the power to weight

ratio one needs to just do the math wherein the machine comes across as

an unstressed unit capable of humming away like any other Toyota ?

boringly reliable and happy doing that!

For the number crunchers among you, the Etios in our test delivered

12.4kmpl in the city cycle while on the national highway runs it upped

this to 16.9kmpl. What is of even greater importance is that we picked

up the car from the plant in Bidadi with 800 metres on the odo and then

ran her to Pune, the 850km plus helping us to run her in. We added

another 500km plus in the course of the test and the fuel consumption

figures are for an absolutely fresh out of the crate automobile. I am

pretty sure that given an additional thousand kilometers of running-in,

the fuel efficiency figure would be considerably improved.

Staying with numbers, the Etios was no slouch when it came to max

velocity, 171km/h being the top speed we recorded. Zero to 60 and zero

to 100km/h came up in 6.51 seconds and 14.51 seconds respectively. The

quarter mile came up in 19.39 seconds with a terminal speed of

117.73km/h but it was in the roll-ons across the top three cogs where

the Etios was very impressive, with a smooth surge or torque which

helped enhance not just the performance and the overtaking ability but

the sheer pleasure of driving.

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INTERIOR: Pleasure & comfort on the large scale!

Given the fact that it will be targeted slam bang against such rivals as the Suzuki

Swift D'Zire, the Mahindra Logan and the Tata Indigo Manza, the Etios

had to be large on cabin space and I think that the Toyota packaging

engineers have done a stellar job. Small cues dominate and these add up

to an impressively large compartment with ample shoulder room, superb

leg space and ample foot space. The driving position is impressive and

there is not much of a blind spot even with the rake of the A-pillar but

what is outstanding is the rear seat layout with a perfectly optimized

seat back angle, good thigh support, and a near flat floor to make even

the passenger in the centre of the back seat to be just as comfortable

as those flanking him. The quality of the fabric employed may not be

flashy but it does feel durable and more than adequate. In fact, the top

of the line version with its duo-tone interior treatment is most

pleasing to behold and makes the cabin a very appealing place to be in.

The instrument panel and dashboard has a pretty unique

layout with everything clustered in the central console and

intelligently at that. If there was one bit which looked slightly low

rent then it was the dashboard plastic which I feel is something that

should and must be rectified so that even though it might be cost

effective it needn't look cheap. The Toyota product planners were keen

to note this observation and knowing them I am sure it would be

addressed sooner rather than later. The central information console with

the rev counter and the speedo in crescent shaped dials angled towards

the driver worked well and is an interesting detail for a car in this

class. The air con vents are also very imaginative; they not just rotate

to open but also swivel to direct cool fresh air into the cabin. The

air con efficiency is of a high order and given the large engine, it

doesn't impinge on any of the thrust needed for our frantic driving

conditions.

In fact, typical Toyota feel good qualities dominated every

facet of the car and overall I think that it could be forgiven the time

it took to get into the mass market car segment. Another detail which

bears mention is the large cavernous boot the Etios sports ? almost 595

litres of luggage can be packed in, shaming cars some two segments

larger in this respect. However, the carpet for the luggage floor and

the cladding within the sides of the boot are pretty ordinary and Toyota

doesn't need to lose the feel good factor on this front. Another gripe

is the tinted windscreen and the efficacy of the headlamps. The throw as

well as the intensity needs improvement and hopefully this can be

corrected as well. Another detail which I did find disconcerting,

especially when I drove the car on the rain drenched Fuji Speedway

handling course was the underbody noise insulation. The wheel wells up

front have no cladding as seen on other cars and maybe this is

responsible for the unfavourable noise emanating from below as the water

hits the underbody. Mind you noise levels within the cabin are

unbelievably low and it is only the water hitting the underbody which

detracts somewhat from a fine drive experience.

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RIDE & HANDLING: Easy, unstressed and relaxed

I drove the Etios in controlled conditions at the Fuji Speedway in

Japan and then in and around Pune for this road test and the Etios came

through as an honest no-nonsense offering. In fact, having driven from

Bidadi to Pune, our road test chief Dilip Desai said that he stepped out

fresh as a daisy clearly highlighting the fatigue-free nature of the

driving position and the easy power delivery. Suspension components

front to rear are made up of MacPherson struts on the front end with a

torsion beam axle doing duty at the rear. The ride quality is of a very

comfortable order but this doesn't come at the cost of insipid handling.

Keeping in mind this is an all round family car, the Etios comes across

with straight forward and safe dynamics. The wide track and the long

wheelbase help with good vehicle stability. The electrically-assisted

power steering is light and slightly devoid of feel at lower reaches of

its operating spectrum but it is precise and spot-on, not overtly quick

or unduly slow in response.

The top end Etios sedan comes with 185/60 R15 size Bridgestone Turanza

rubber shod on alloy rims while other variants make do with 175/65R14

tyres. Overall drive dynamics and vehicle behaviour are neutral which

are big feel good factors for this category of car and what is

impressive is that given the light build of the vehicle, this doesn't

come at the cost of stability or structural integrity. Braking is

another strong trait of the Etios, the ventilated front discs and rear

drums combo delivering effortless retardation every time without

unsettling the car in the least. The Etios further comes with ABS and

EBD which is a good sign as this will deliver added impetus across this

segment of car to up the ante on the safety aspect.

SUMMING IT UP: Stonking value delivered!

Designing and making a car to a price which will target it straight

at the Swift D'Zire's jugular is one thing, making it with legendary

Toyota build and quality is another but the Etios should satisfy on both

points. Two small details illustrate how the Tata Nano's clever

solutions to enhancing structural rigidity and reducing costs with fewer

components bears reference here. The roof panel of the Etios feature

the structural ribs stamped in at the sheet metal pressing stage. The

use a single large wiper with a broad sweep for the front windscreen is

another. Both do their job as intended. Detail touches which are not

exactly rocket-science but clever in their implementation. The Etios is

well equipped and the top end version gets airbags for driver and front

seat passenger, ABS with EBD, an engine immobilizer, door ajar warning

and a built-in 2-DIN radio cum CD-player.

No diesel has been factored in as yet but the 1.4-litre unit that

does service in the Corolla Altis Diesel is scheduled to make its way

under the hood come late 2011. However, what Toyota is more focused on

is to get every one of the 70,000 units it intends to roll out in 2011

right from the word go. This is not just because it has a reputation to

uphold but also that its challenge lies in keeping its rep intact in the

face of the over 70 per cent plus localization the Etios will roll out

with. It is a challenge but then the challenge has also come from

within. The good news is that, speaking purely from the road test

evaluation and given Toyota's exacting standards, the Etios makes for a

most compelling package in its class which in turn will force rivals to

reappraise their gameplan. And we haven't even gotten to grips with the

hatchback as yet!

Source : www.zigwheels.com

Anand Sivaraj2010-11-25 04:20:59

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Just now got a call from Toyota dealer regarding Etios, she said bookings starts from 1st December, while TD will be provided at the end of year. I said, i have already booked a sedan, provide me an early TD, so that i can book ASAP, if i like it. There was no positive reply.

Anyways the car isnt a looker but then this segment is not for looks, reading the review it seems Toyota has hit the bull's eye, comfortable, spacious, nice driveability, excellent FE summing up with Toyota's huge brand name, quality & reliability will make this sell like hot cakes. Expect some waiting upto 3months atleast like was the case with Figo, Polo, Vento, etc & every other new car, nice tactics to increase demand & dealer margin through 'ON'. The interiors also doesnt seems good, also the main factor will no be pricing, heard that it will start from 6.99lacs, if thats the case i doubt its success because then higher model will then touch 8.5-9.5OTR which will directly target City, Linea, Fiesta & Vento, obviously then we have better options. Hope for the best, hope we get atleast one nice entry level sedan from a very good brand.

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I feel Toyota has winner in its hands not due to quality product but due to its reputation.This vehicle is a compromise vehicle not a world class product of global standard which is shame and not expected from this company.

If priced in Honda city's  territory it will siphon of sales not from city but Fiat Linea,SX4

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Etios may be another 'Fortuner' in the making: book one today delivery about 6 months later. They ramped up capacity to handle 70 k units a year, viz approx 5800 units a month. Any idea what the price is going to be? This is one shape that will grow on you (unlike Honda which really hits you) and it looks quiet good in the silver shade pictured above. Dash plastics will improve with time (just like the Ikon). Whatever be the tech, I'd like to see how sturdy this 930 kgs sedan is going to be on our roads. 

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