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Etios & Liva diesel, now launched

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Diesel mania to the fore. When Diesel is being considered 'even' for the diminutive Nano can bigger cars be far behind. If you can't afford a petrol Nano beats me how you can afford the incremental price of a diesel. Unless you use your car like a 'bike' it pays to stick to petrol for hassle free running and comfort.

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With people complaining of poor NVH on Etios petrol, wonder what the diesel will sound like? With Toyota doing away from weather beading and sound deadening the only solution would be for the drivers to plug cotton into their ears for better NVH.

Durango Dude2011-08-26 16:55:40

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The diesel mill powering the two cars will essentially be the same unit which propels the much bigger and expensive Corolla Altis. The engine may be offered in a different state of tune for the Etios / Liva though.

The Corolla Alris diesel features a Variable Geometry turbo version of the 1.4 liter D-4D diesel engine with 88.4PS of power. The Etios twins, however, are expected to get a fixed geometry variant of the powerplant, dishing out about 75 PS of peak power. The 1.4 liter diesel engine

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Expect a premium of about 1lakh over the petrol versions.

That means the top end VX-variant of Etios & Liva will be pushed to 8.2 & 7.2 lacs respectively.

And at this price the customer expects Brilliant Interiors & Superb product quality, not a Dated, Crappy rattling vehicle.

And that's the actual price zone of ANHC, Vento & fluidic Verna & even a child can easily claim that Etios sedan can never stand infort of these, even on any front.

Similar is the case is going to happen with Liva D too. As, even at 6.5 lacs Swift ZDi tries hard to justify is price tag & it would be even harder situation for Liva D-4D VX to establish & prove itself at 7.2 lacs, which is almost equal to Brilliant VW Polo & Hyundai i20.

So Toyota needs to do really different & more now, rather than to add Brilliant 1.4 D-4D engine to those crappy tinboxes.

When VW can make & sell Brilliant, Luxurious & High-quality Polo 1.2 TL petrol at 4.4 lacs(Initially & 4.6 lacs now), then what's the ill excuses Toyota is making now for Liva now.

Else Toyota be prepared to establish themselves as Recall king of the Automotive world.

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68 BHP diesel engines for Toyota Etios and Liva to be launched on 9th September!

68 BHP diesel engines for Toyota Etios and Liva to be launched on 9th September! News, Slider | Shrey | September 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm

 

There have been many rumors that the Toyota Etios and Liva diesel would be pumped by a 76 bhp engine. However, these rumors have now proven to be false as various sources claim that the Etios and Liva diesel would be powered by a 68 bhp diesel engine. The bookings for the diesel variants of both the cars have already begun and they can be booked with a down-payment of Rs. 50,000.

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The diesel engine has been borrowed from the Toyota Corolla Altis however; the variable geomtric turbocharger will be missing in the Etios and Liva. ARAI claims that the engine can give a fuel efficiency figure of about 22 kmpl. However, there is no clue as to why Toyota chose to keep the cars under powered as compared to other cars of its segment.

Source: Carwale

dr_nishu2011-09-05 13:55:10

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As per Sirish's fb updates today about Etios & Liva D;

 

-Just drove the diesels. Linear & smooth power delivery but 68PS not enough to excite. Gbox not v slick. Too much noise in cabin.

 

-Diesel Etios & Liva will get power steering & ABS as standard. Airbag opt on all variants. No top end version of Liva D.

 

-Etios & Liva diesel launch round the corner. 68PS 170Nm 1.4 diesel from Corolla without VGT. 5spd manual. 23.59kmpl ARAI fuel eff.

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True to its colors, Toyota will use the scalpel & cost cutting will be very evident. Toyota should also realize, this is not the same Indian market, its maturing & very fast at that.

 

True to its bones it will demand premium for its brand name. Again it should know that a maturing market weighs products wisely & doesn't fall for names.

 

In the end being themselves, they know they will get the numbers & thats the irony of the great Indian market!
BornFree2011-09-06 16:28:19

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Base variant alone for Diesel Liva reminds me of that Zen-D era.

Times are changed & customers are completely aware of the choices & competition now.

Toyota is completely beating its brand loyality here by making ETIOS so Cost vs Quality sensitive.

Had they priced it even 50k higher with providing better Quality, then the scenario of Toyota dealerships would've been entirely different now.

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This reminds me of Fortuner .... People seem to be having Blind faith in 'T' badge ..
Any idea how many months waiting for the VDI Swift

 

Hey booking amount i believe is Dealers discretion..

 

 

 

 

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BornFree2011-09-09 11:30:26

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I feel diesel mill in Etios and Liva will perform better because of installation of tried and tested diesel engine.

Also Toyota is very successful in selling diesel engine cars than Petrol such as Qualis and Innova but unfortunately the Altis couldn't pick-up because it underpowered.

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Local dealer says Liva D booked till November already. How true could this be?

Going a step ahead of Maruti' date=' the big "T" is charging 50k as booking amount.
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Dear BornFree,

How well do you think we all can believe on this.

I'm sure Toyota is bluffing and is trying to over inflate it's books. If we are to believe Etios Petrol Booking were full till the early next year. Then Toyota announced that the customers were given a choice to shift their booking to Liva. And also Diesel twin were expected to be launched only in 2012. But with in few months the diesel siblings were brought in as sale dwindled to half of the initial sales when they were expected to double by now.

Now by all this follow up it is now clearly understood that this is just a hoax call by the BIG 'T' into fooling us all.

Rest we can assume......

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