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Advice to all new car owners on stereo change

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Hi ACI'ns

Please be careful when you're going in for After market stereos. According to the rules any sort of electrical mods will void warranty no matter how professionally its done.

I found this out over some casual chat with my FIAT guys (whom i know very well.)

They say that changing stereos is like an open secret but it will void any warranty claims, should there be one.

So my advice is either you keep the stock stereos till such a warranty expires on its own (1-2yrs usually) or make sure your electrical lines are "Independent" from all other circuits.

Please be careful about this, I've seen cases where a harmless change like this has caused much despair to the owners.

PS:: I thought it would be helpful to share this opinion and so here it is.

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Good topic for all new comers and first time car owners.

In fact, it is not just stereo.  Adding any additional electrical accessories fixed or other such items also make the warranty disappear.  You may use, however, any of those items which draw power from the provided power outlets in the car.  You may use can-chillers, car-inverters, mobile-chargers etc., but do not install any of those that are fixed permanently (like a DVD display, DVD player, car fridge, reverse cameras, sonic-parking-assists, stereos etc., or even replacement of stock headlights, horns etc.,  

That's precisely the reason why I did not install an additional horn (mini air horn) on my Xylo as M&M chaps are not agreeing for it's installation `with warranty'.  I took it to the M&M service centre on my very first free service.  And, I always ask them whenever I took my Xylo there during the last 3 years.  My Toredo Red E8 Seven Seater Xylo completes 3 years on 14.02.2012.

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Both Agree and Disagree

First, most modern cars( howsoever cheap) comes with certain features and provisions, or its higher variants have certain electrical features as standard which the basic versions or intermediate ones miss. Many of us go for these features from outside as it is cheaper.

Secondly, due to the fact that these cars have certain features, the wiring generally accommodates the provision. Examples of such wiring harness includes music system, central locking, fog lamps and even parking sensors in some cars.

Thus fitting one such features which is directly plug and play is not supposed to void warranty and there are electrical goods that is designed for the fitment in certain cars too. Eg : JBL for Maruti Suzuki, Autocop security systems, Kenwood and Nippon for many brands and so on. If fitting a music system voids warranty, then why is there an empty space in the dash for the provision?

Moreover the OEM system that comes with certain cars are actually a product from a specialist manufacturer. So using another product of the same company can never screw up the warranty.

The responsibility of car owners is to get accessories from reputed dealer, who does not cut wiring and do a juggad installation. If the shops uses the correct harness and do according to manufacturers recommendation, there is hardly anything to worry.

This has been a recent scam on the part of the dealers. They just do not accept any fitment from outside as they want to push you a product from their own house accessories shop. No way can a free music system installed at dealer any different from installing the same HU at an outside accessories shop, if done properly without any cutting.

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sb-alto, yes you're right.. However this can be the case with higher versions where music systems are provided as well.

Basically people swap devices for the look and feel more than the features( IMO). Even in the case where a stereo is not provided by default the company guys still claim that this will void the warranty.

(of course one can get away with anything if he/she is on the good side of the service guys).

But my point is this:: Its always safe to know that wiring especially that comes out from the default setup needs to be tampered with, as less as possible.( I'm not saying dont do it, but be extra cautious). These seemingly small things can go a long way in maintaining the warranty.

(In the US such small changes don't void warranty at all, but here we have "special rules", always)

PS:: The reason why i started this thread was because the FIAT guy(whom i know very very well) was pretty strict with such mods, even with me. So i hope you get the gravity.

Its not like they will not oblige but its a hassle that can be easily avoided.

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sb-alto' date=' yes you're right.. However this can be the case with higher versions where music systems are provided as well.

Basically people swap devices for the look and feel more than the features( IMO). [/quote']

Are you talking about those CASKA / MOTEVO fitments ? As far as I know, some of these are OEM in cars abroad and they use the same harness throughout the world. That is why, cars with international presence has better opportunity to play with systems.Moreover as I said before, you will find dedicated system for cars like Fortuner, i20, skoda/vw, and even Mercs/BMWs. Still it is always better to get a know how of what you are going to fit.

Even in the case where a stereo is not provided by default the company guys still claim that this will void the warranty.

This is wrong and trick on the part of the dealer. No way can Music system spoil warranty. Ask them to show the clause which mentions that' date=' or tell them to give it in writing and they never will.

PS:: The reason why i started this thread was because the FIAT guy(whom i know very very well) was pretty strict with such mods, even with me. So i hope you get the gravity.

Do I smell something amiss ? I suggest ask a few more service guys or mail the head of service. That will clarify

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Yeah I guess you are right on 2 counts.. Anyway my car is out of Electrical warranty at least.. But for the sake of knowledge I shall ask them .. Perhaps it will help others as well.

Thanks

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@sham

You can get a lot of retro fit HU for your punto since it is available abroad. These can be available in India also. Just make sure that the harness ends are the same. Rest is a child's play. With a bit of knowledge and effort you can even change the HU to stock when you go for service and no one will know.

BTW its good to see that you have given this factor of warranty a thought. Many people just go to an accessory store and get things fitted without thinking twice.

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Almost every music system is compatible with the OE harness if not they will need and adaptor but no cutting wires . Cutting wire happens when one is installing to many components to the HU (like crossover ,subs, tube , amp ,horn ) which has only few out pins for them . Here the installer has no choice but to solder some wirings to make it compatible.

 

Even if he does it why would a dealer waste precious time to remove the aftermarket HU and see whether the wiring is cut or tampered unless there are error codes or problem in the electrical system .

 

Just my 2 cents!

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Now a days popular manufactured available for stereo in the market, Sony is well brand name among them. It produced top quality product, like amplifiers, woofers and subwoofers for car stereo systems. I suggest you to use this brand at one and you satisfied with this brand when you plan to change your current stereo system.

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